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The Name of the Rose

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The year is 1327. Franciscans in a wealthy Italian abbey are suspected of heresy, and Brother William of Baskerville arrives to investigate. When his delicate mission is suddenly overshadowed by seven bizarre deaths, Brother William turns to the logic of Aristotle, the theology of Aquinas, and the empirical insights of Roger Bacon to find the killer. He collects evidence, deciphers secret symbols and coded manuscripts, and digs into the eerie labyrinth of the abbey (¡°where the most interesting things happen at night¡±) armed with a wry sense of humor and a ferocious curiosity.

552 pages, Paperback

First published September 1, 1980

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Umberto Eco

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Umberto Eco was an Italian medievalist, philosopher, semiotician, novelist, cultural critic, and political and social commentator. In English, he is best known for his popular 1980 novel The Name of the Rose, a historical mystery combining semiotics in fiction with biblical analysis, medieval studies and literary theory, as well as Foucault's Pendulum, his 1988 novel which touches on similar themes.
Eco wrote prolifically throughout his life, with his output including children's books, translations from French and English, in addition to a twice-monthly newspaper column "La Bustina di Minerva" (Minerva's Matchbook) in the magazine L'Espresso beginning in 1985, with his last column (a critical appraisal of the Romantic paintings of Francesco Hayez) appearing 27 January 2016. At the time of his death, he was an Emeritus professor at the University of Bologna, where he taught for much of his life. In the 21st century, he has continued to gain recognition for his 1995 essay "Ur-Fascism", where Eco lists fourteen general properties he believes comprise fascist ideologies.

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July 17, 2018
Eco's writing is so infectious, lively, and likeable that I thought it appropriate to pen my review in his style.

1. In which I, as reader, feel used.
Yes, I'm almost certain Eco wrote this thing for the sole purpose of informing us of how knowledgeable he is of the finer points of monastic orders, book trivia, and medieval philosophy.
Knowing most would not put up with this crap for 500 pages, he wisely chose to interrupt his many digressions on poverty, heretics, whether or not Jesus laughed, Aristotle, architecture, etc, with an amateurish mystery plot. It's pedantry disguised as fiction. I've been used.

2. In which the pace sucks.
Just when you thought it was getting interesting, just when the plot is getting meatier and it grabs your attention, here comes a dissertation or a long drawn description of doors, churches, parchments, beasts, characters that are totally irrelevant to the plot, and backstories that do nothing to shed light on the events. You must often wait a chapter or two to get back to the mystery that drove you to read this thing in the first place. Do yourself a favor and quit after he has solved his first "mystery" (page 25?).

3. In which its heavy-handedness is offensive.
Lurk around bookworms long enough and you're bound to find some pompous pseudo intellectual enraptured by the rich, textured, yet subtle literary clues so artfully crafted into this piece: "You mean to tell me that Jorge De Burgos, the blind monk, is actually a nod to Jorge Luis Borges, the blind Argentinian writer? Whaaat?" So clever...
I'm sure the late Borges heard this, face-palmed, and then turned in his grave.
EDIT: I have been duly informed, perhaps by the type referenced above, that Borges was actually alive when this "work" was published. He died shortly thereafter...

4. In which the plot fails to deliver.
Provided you made it as far as the end, all in hopes of finding a conclusion so stellar as to redeem the drudgery that preceded it, what one is most likely to find is disappointment. Most, by the time they get there, will already know who the culprit is, and given the setting and the tools the protagonists are carrying, what will happen in the final scene.
Is it a fantastic twist? A conspiracy centuries in the making? No. Just lunatic ravings akin to the ones that drove Eco to romanticize about love, lust, knowledge, etc...
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Are all the libraries receptacles of knowledge? Are all the books vehicles of wisdom? Are all the librarians propagators of good?
¡°Which books?¡±
Benno hesitated. ¡°I don¡¯t remember. What does it matter which books were spoken of?¡±
¡°It matters a great deal, because here we are trying to understand what has happened among men who live among books, with books, from books, and so their words on books are also important.¡±
¡°It¡¯s true,¡± Benno said, smiling for the first time, his face growing almost radiant. ¡°We live for books. A sweet mission in this world dominated by disorder and decay.¡±

The Name of the Rose is a very special mystery tale, luxuriantly allusive and bookishly labyrinthine ¨C it is the postmodernistic Sherlock Holmes¡¯ inquisitional outing.
In these last few years, as never before, to stimulate piety and terror and fervor in the populace, and obedience to human and divine law, preachers have used distressing words, macabre threats.

When faith turns into fanaticism, it becomes evil¡­
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June 18, 2017
Go ahead, throw your tomatoes at me!

I know that in general this book is loved. Many count it amongst their favorites. I found it very dull and very boring. I had an extremely hard time staying interested in the story, which is weird for me and mystery/suspense stories. Never have I fought so hard to finish a book (in general, I do not DNF).

So, if you couldn't stand it either, let me know that I am not alone.

For those that loved it and are ready to launch rotten produce at me:

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June 7, 2019
This was one of the biggest novels in the 80s. I remember the book very well. A crime story set in a monastery with much Latin and Greek and some dubious monks trying to solve some murder cases. The denouement was brilliant. The whole story was absolutely outstanding (the lost book on comedy) and extremely sophisticated. So much wisdom and philosophy in one novel. It's very seldom that you come across a book like that. There is also a famous movie with Jean Connery as William of Baskerville but the book tops the novel by far. Back then in school everybody read that novel. Must read and absolutely recommended!
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November 26, 2011
This is one of those rare near-perfect books that crosses through many genres and could be universally acclaimed. There are dozens of great reviews on here already, but this book struck me as so profound that I felt I needed to briefly put down my own thoughts. I could not bring myself to put this down and it was always a battle to not skip work and continue reading in the parking lot after lunch break. Eco crafts a novel that could be labeled as historical fiction, mystery, theology and philosophy, metafiction, a plot-boiler, literature, and many others - hell, there's even a bit of love and sex thrown in and of multiple sexual orientations! He essentially takes Sherlock Holmes and Watson and recasts them as monks in a 1300's Abbey where murder and theological debates appear around every corner. The two main plots, the murder mystery and the religious debates, weave together effortlessly, each feeding off each other as the tensions rise and the plot thickens.

This is no simple plot-driven thriller however. Eco brings a tome of medieval and christian history to the table, working it as a period piece and educates the reader as well as entertains. This has drawn a lot of comparisons to works such as Dan Brown's Da Vince Code, yet Eco surpasses Brown in almost every category. This book truly deserve to be considered "literature", as there is much more to it than a history and research tossed into a plot. Eco can spit prose with the best of them and he will keep your dictionary close at hand. His character's speech is all believable and what fascinated me the most was how expertly he wrote the theological arguments between the Abbey occupants. Through these characters, many which were real people, he presents believable, and often fiery, multifaceted discussions on a range of topics such as heretics, vows of poverty, and gospel interpretations. Eco has a vast knowledge of medieval studies and it shows. He is also a professor of semiotics, which play a critical role in this novel. William's method of deduction hinges on his ability to "read the signs" in the world around him. He carefully crafts syllogisms, which brought me back to my logic and reasoning courses at MSU, to produce his theories. Eco puts his best foot forward and gives the reader a good introduction to his own fields of study with Rose. However, he also throws in the loophole that the world may not be comprised of any inherent meaning and that it is senseless to try to apply meaning to randomness. This could present quiet a dilemma for a monk who's life draws meaning from the gospels.

Perhaps the most exciting aspect of this novel was that it was a book about books. The whole novel spins around several texts, such as Aristotle and Revelations, but is made up of other books. He even draws the readers attention to this as William explains to Adso how the contents of one book can be discerned by reading other books. He strings together hefty allusions to other medieval texts and also to one of Eco's, and one of my own, personal favorite authors: Jorge Luis Borges. This novel is saturated with allusions to Borges works, there is even a blind librarian (much like the real Borges) named Jorge of Burgos. I would highly recommend picking up a copy of his collected fictions, simply because it is a phenomenal read, and to read selected stories such as The Library of Babel simultaneously with The Name of the Rose as Eco drew much of his inspiration for this book from Borges story. The scenes in the labyrinthine library of the abbey are gold, I wanted to get lost with William and Adso as they flipped through great works together while trying to make sense of their obfuscating surroundings. Eco's use of metafiction greatly adds to this novel, as an acute reading will show Eco is often talking more about the book itself than the actual plot with his two leads. He also leaves in plenty of untranslated Latin while having William conclude that true scholars must first master languages, and to key in on the idea that this book was a text found and translated by the character of Eco. He leaves some detective work for the reader, and I thank him for that.

You really need to read this book. There are scant few people who would not find something of interest within it's pages. It is a deep, dense ocean of a novel and not a little plot-driven pool to be waded through just for enjoyment, but with just a little effort it will provide a fountain of enjoyment. That was a weird, out of place and senseless string of water metaphors, but you get the idea. Easily a 5/5
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August 19, 2021
(Book 293 from 1001 books) - Il Nome Della Rosa = The Name of the Rose, Umberto Eco

The Name of the Rose is the 1980 debut novel by Italian author Umberto Eco.

It is a historical murder mystery set in an Italian monastery, in the year 1327, an intellectual mystery combining semiotics in fiction, biblical analysis, medieval studies and literary theory.

It was translated into English by William Weaver in 1983.

In 1327, Franciscan friar William of Baskerville and Adso of Melk, a Benedictine novice travelling under his protection, arrive at a Benedictine monastery in Northern Italy to attend a theological disputation.

This abbey is being used as neutral ground in a dispute between Pope John XXII and the Franciscans, who are suspected of heresy.

The monastery is disturbed by the death of Adelmo of Otranto, an illuminator revered for his illustrations.

Adelmo was skilled at comical artwork, especially concerning religious matters. William is asked by the monastery's abbot, Abo of Fossanova, to investigate the death: During his enquiry he has a debate with one of the oldest monks in the abbey, Jorge of Burgos, about the theological meaning of laughter, which Jorge despises.

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March 12, 2019
¡°The Name of the Rose¡± is a horribly pretentious, pedantic, verbose ¡°novel¡±. And it stinks too!

Under the guise of a medieval mystery Umberto Eco has written a diatribe on philosophical ideas (and not presented all of them accurately) in order to impress upon the reader how very smart he is indeed. Characterization, moments of human reality & truth, and most importantly accessibility to the reader are clearly repulsive ideas to Mr. Eco.

I can sum up the book, which takes place at a monastery in northern Italy in 1327 thus:
-Monks have crazy visions, lots of them and their visions don¡¯t advance the plot one iota.
-Umberto Eco knew Latin, and he wants you to be damn sure to know it.
-The narrator has a vison in which Eco shows off that he knows Bible stories, lots of them, and can throw them into a blender to create some post-apocalyptic nonsense, again to no point in the story. My mommy read Bible stories to me too. I get the references Eco was making. I imagine that would disappoint him. He clearly hates novels that actually involve the reader.
-Eco is actually a very bad version of Dan Brown. Read that sentence again. Yep I said it. The text¡¯s great d¨¦nouement is straight out of one of Brown¡¯s novels with the same obvious villain/ religious fanatic that the reader can see coming a mile away. Mr. Brown can¡¯t write, but he is a good storyteller. Eco can¡¯t write (and editing is out of his frame of reference) AND he is a horrid storyteller.
-The arrogant and meandering ¡°Postscript¡± written by the author (he takes 40 pages to explain to you how great he and his book are) is truly terrible. It will make you detest the writer. As if you will need help after finishing this torture. Did no one ever tell this guy to shut up? Throughout these 40 pages he contradicts himself, and talks down to the reader too many times to count.
Really my biggest frustration with ¡°The Name of the Rose¡± is that it infrequently presents an interesting idea which if followed up would have made for intriguing reading. Among them, the idea of ¡°books speaking among themselves¡± and some thoughts on the nature of learning that had much potential. There are nuggets throughout the text that if taken out of context are quite insightful and worthy of thought. But then Eco¡¯s ego gets the better of him and he pontificates and belabors each point he makes. Every time he presents an idea (philosophical, educational, religious or other) he makes the point in 2-3 pages and then goes on to lecture the reader for another 10-20 pages on the same point redundantly. If those redundancies alone had been cut the text would have been 300 pages and significantly less bad.

A member of my book club picked this text, and the way the meeting for this book went clearly demonstrates its flaws. It was not a discussion and an exchange of ideas, but a lecture. When you have a group of educated people and 1 or 2 has to tell the rest of them how valuable a text is¡­well¡­I think that says it all right there. Ironically Eco writes in the book ¡°Without an eye to read them, a book contains signs that produce no concepts, therefore it is dumb.¡± Unless you are a book by Mr. Eco of course, then if people don¡¯t read your work because it does not speak to them they are the fools. There are quite a few fans of this text who may believe that whopper. I for one am not biting.
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We more readily remember the film than the book, and today, I admit that the two mix, but I enjoyed both so much!
Eco's writing is erudite and detailed but still pleasant to read; the delicacy of the descriptions (architecture, characters, books) is an absolute pleasure.
We are in an absolute thriller with suspense, intrigues, and an investigator as fine as mysterious, a closed, scary world!
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"The Name of the Rose" is not a book to be picked up lightly with the expectation that you, the reader, are about to embark on a traditional work of historical fiction. Umberto Eco expects much from the reader of this book. Almost immediately the unsuspecting reader will find himself dropped into the midst of the High Middle Ages, a society completely foreign for the majority of modern readers.

In historical context, the story occurs during the time the Papacy had moved from its traditional location in Italy to Avignon. John XXII is a Pope brought to the head of the Holy Roman Church by the King of France. John is not the first Pope to leave the Church's Italian home.

However, it is 1327, and great dissatisfaction pervades Europe that a French King should have political influence over the Church. Traditionally, following the division of the Roman Empire between West and East, the secular protection of the Church had fallen to the Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire, a title held by members of the royal families of Germany. In that year, Louis IV would declare himself the King of Italy and in 1328 he would crown himself the next Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire.

Louis' entrance into Italy was inevitable, as King Phillip of France had encouraged an alliance with the "French" Pope through his connection with the King of Naples. Louis' sympathies, or perhaps his political acumen, led him to support the Franciscan Order, committed to the life of poverty. This was in direct contradiction to the Papal Bulls issued by John XXII, who saw the Franciscan Orders as a disruptive force among the common people. Off shoots of the Fransiscan's, particularly the Psuedo-Apostles, led by Fra Dolcino, had led to absolute chaos in Italy. Dolcino's common followers attacked the wealthy to bring about a universal state of poverty. There should be no rich. There should be no poor. The ultimate goal of Dolcino was to abolish the need of the Church and place it under the authority of the people. Under this theory, there was no need for Popes, Cardinals, Bishops, or ecclesiastical offices of any type.

William of Baskerville's purpose in going to the Abbey of Melko is as an emissary of the Imperial Theologians to negotiate a meeting between legations appointed by the Pope and Louis to resolve the conflict between the Papacy, the Minorite or Franciscan orders, and Louis. What is at stake is a reinterpretation between Church and State. That the underlying issue concerns who will wield true power in Europe is obvious.

However, William's true mission is delayed. For, upon his arrival, he discovers that a young Illuminator in the Abbey's Scriptorium has met an untimely death. Was it murder or suicide? The death of a second monk, clearly indicates that someone in the closed society of the Abbey of Melk is a murderer.

Accompanied by his scribe, Adso, William sets out to investigate the deaths of the two monks. The mystery only deepens as more deaths occur. The circumstances seem to follow the sounding of the trumpets as revealed in the Revelation of John.

Eco continues to complicate the facts of William's case by revealing that the Abbey contains one of the finest libraries known in the contemporary world. Interestingly, no one but the Librarian, his assistant, or someone with the permission of the Abbot himself can gain entry to the library, which is protected by a labyrinth seemingly incapable of being navigated.

William of Baskerville is the equivalent of a Medieval Sherlock Holmes. Adso, whose French name happens to be Adson, conveniently rhyming with Watson. William is a man committed to logic. He is a student of Roger Bacon. He is a contemporary of William of Occam. It should come as no surprise that he is capable of the art of deduction through that logic, nor that he should be in possession of a pair of optical lenses, serving him as eyeglasses enabling him to read the tiny writing of a murdered monk, barely perceptible to the naked eye. The monk's almost invisible writing lead William and Adso to discover the secrets of the labyrinth and to search for a book that seems to hold the motive for the accumulating bodies, day by day.

The Abbot pointedly tells William that the matter of these deaths must be resolved prior to the arrival of the two legations. The Papal legation is headed by Bernard of Gui, an infamous inquisitor who has burned many a heretic in his long history as a defender of the faith. Surely Bernard will take over the question of the deaths at the Abbey and use them to strengthen the Pope's position that the Franciscan's philosophy of the poverty of Christ be eliminated by the Pope.

William and Adso's exploration of the labyrinth to discover a missing book, the seeming motive for the murders, intensify. And they succeed in discovering their way through the labyrinth. However, they are unsuccessful in unraveling an endless thread of textual clues leading from one manuscript to the next prior to the arrival of the two opposed legations.

As feared, the discovery of yet another body, the herbalist Severinus, leads Bernard Gui to take over the inquisition to root out the evil present in the abbey. Bernard is ruthless. Torture is an accepted practice to disclose the works of the devil. As expected, Bernard announces he intends to inform the Pope that the Franciscan orders of Poverty should be prohibited.

Nevertheless, William and Adso will solve the mystery of the labyrinth, the secret manuscript it contains, and the identity of the murderer. In keeping with my practice not to reveal any spoilers of plot, I will not address the identity of the murderer, nor the motive for the crimes.

But, I will say this. "The Name of the Rose" is a labyrinth complete within itself. While a labyrinth may contain a solution, and one may escape its twists and turns, it is not always possible to end up with an answer that leaves no ambiguity. There is more than one labyrinth present in Eco's wonderful work. One question relates to the interpretation of knowledge itself. Is knowledge finite? Are there universal truths? Or is it a matter of what appears to be the truth only subject to interpretation by individuals?

To the librarians of the Abbey Melko, knowledge was something to be protected from disclosure. As I mentioned to one friend, the library took on the connotation of Eden's Tree of Life, from which man and woman were forbidden to eat. It was knowledge gained from eating the forbidden fruit that led to the loss of innocence. Considering that the library contained many works considered by the librarians to be the work of infidels, it would be their purpose to hide those works from the innocent. Yet, the mere possession of that knowledge also led to its misinterpretation and the accusation of heresy.

Clearly, during the heated debate between the Papal and Imperial Legations, knowledge did not exist independent of the thinker's perception. One postulation of a particular theological theorem was subject to debate on the most minute detail out of political motivation.

But, Adso may well have had the most significant statement to make regarding books and their contents. It will be one of my favorite passages:

"Until then I had thought each book spoke of the things, human or divine, that lie outside books. Now I realized that not infrequently books speak of books: it is as if they spoke among themselves. In the light of this reflection, the library seemed all the more disturbing to me. It was then the place of long, centuries-old murmuring, an imperceptible dialogue between one parchment and another, a living thing, a receptacle of powers not to ruled by a human mind, a treasure of secrets emanated by many minds, surviving the death of those who had produced them or had been their conveyors.¡±


Even William was subject to hearing words so familiar, he knew he had read them before, but could not remember the name of the book. ¡°It seemed to me, as I read this page, that I had read some of these words before, and some phrases that are almost the same, which I have seen elsewhere, return to my mind?¡±

Books find themselves the creator of other books,when they become so deeply planted in our subconscious. A famous contemporary example is found in Nabokov's "Lolita." Nabokov's character first appeared in a short story "Lolita," written in 1916 by Heinz von Eschwege. The story lines are quite similar. Nabokov has been said to have created artistic improprieties, or been subject to a phenomenon known as "cryptomnesia," a hidden memory of a story he had once read. Michael Marr, author of "The Two Lolitas," wrote, "Literature has always been a huge crucible in which familiar themes are continually recast..."

Perhaps James Baldwin said it best. "It was books that taught me that the things that tormented me most were the very things that connected me with all the people who were alive, or who had ever been alive."

As "The Name of the Rose" contains a multitude of Latin phrases, I think it fitting to add one more, not included in the book itself. That is "sub rosa." The concept first appears in Egyptian culture. The rose was the symbol of the Egyptian God Horus, most often represented by a child holding his finger to his mouth as if he were saying, "Shhhh." It became symbolic of silence. It reappears in Greek and Roman mythology. Venus/Aphrodite gave a rose to Cupid which served as a symbol of silence regarding her many indiscretions in love.

By the Middle Ages, the rose had a definite meaning. In those times, when a party of individuals met in a council hall, a rose was hung over the table. Whatever was discussed "under the rose" was secret and all parties meeting under the rose agreed that the subject of their discussions was confidential. Much lies under the surface of this novel. It was deemed by the characters to be secret. And so, I believe Eco would have us treat this novel in modo sub rosa, leaving each reader to discover its secrets in their own manner. The further one delves, the more secrets remain to be discovered.

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Why are the Monks Dying?

? An intriguing and well-written medieval mystery piece that is not easy for the novel¡¯s sleuths or its readers to solve.

The monastics are dying off from unnatural causes, but the monk protagonist, sent in by higher authority, despite his best efforts, is unable to discover the source. Though it seems it must be one of the brethren who is doing the killing.

The monastic community does not come off well in Eco¡¯s story. Critics claim the book is a deliberate and planned attack on the Christian faith and the Roman Catholic Church. You¡¯ll have to decide for yourself.

It is well put together. Labyrinth upon labyrinth upon labyrinth within the mind and within the monastery.

A worthwhile read.
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By page 30, I was all ready to name the rose Barry and be done with it, but for some reason I pushed on through to the end. This is less a novel than a smug and rambling treatise by a self-worshipping author desperate to show the world how clever he is. Utter garbage, but two stars because it was still much better than .
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(Reprinted from the Chicago Center for Literature and Photography [cclapcenter.com]. I am the original author of this essay, as well as the owner of CCLaP; it is not being reprinted here illegally.)

The CCLaP 100: In which I read a hundred so-called "classics" and then write reports on whether or not I think they deserve the label
Book #7: The Name of the Rose, by Umberto Eco

The story in a nutshell:
In one of the more fascinating stories of how a novelist was first drawn to his profession, scholar Umberto Eco was actually an Italian history professor and Medieval expert for years before ever turning to creative writing; according to legend, it was his thrilling and exacting retelling of actual Dark Age stories that inspired his friends to keep urging him to write a novel based in those times, which he finally did in the late 1970s. As such, then, The Name of the Rose is a bizarre amalgam that you scarcely ever find in contemporary literature -- a genre actioner (murder mystery) with a lot of melodramatic elements at its core, but at the same time a detailed historical look at actual 1300s Europe, with a big part of the reason to read this book being so that one can be exposed to the meticulous detail of Eco's prose on the subject, from the period's clothing and architecture to its religious structures and philosophies. But on top of this, turns out that Eco is a postmodernist and accomplished semiotics expert as well, turning the book not just into a potboiler mystery and historical novel but indeed an entire thesis on the nature of language itself, on the meaning behind symbols, and on why human behavior repeats itself so often no matter which age you study, and no matter what the rationale behind such behavior during any given age.

Plotwise it's the story of a Franciscan monk named William of Baskerville, which is just the start of the sly references to Sherlock Holmes Eco deliberately inserts; turns out that William is also British, a champion of logic and deductive reasoning, and even has a clueless teenage assistant named Adso who stands in symbolically for the equally clueless audience. William is in Italy, helping a fellow monk investigate a mysterious death in the fortified abbey where the man leads; turns out, in fact, that this is one of the largest and most renowned of all the Christian Dark-Age monastery libraries, attracting an international team of egghead monks and a scholarly atmosphere more akin to modern universities. Both the novel and the investigation take place over seven days at this fortress/abbey, where William and Adso spend their time gathering clues, pontificating on all kinds of subjects that intellectuals in the 1300s pontificated on, and examining in detail such historical details as the church's then-ongoing debate over whether it's better to be rich or poor, as well as why the Benedictine monks and the Franciscan ones hated each other so intensely back then in the first place. This being a murder mystery, of course, the actual plot is something best left for the reader to discover on their own, although I'll warn you that the actual "whodunit" part isn't very suspenseful; as mentioned above, the real point of this being a murder mystery is for Eco to show just how similarly humans behaved back then as we do now, even as the times themselves inspire completely different motivations and excuses. (So in other words, a lot less "I love my baby's mamma" in the 1300s, a lot more "The devil made me do it.")

The argument for it being a classic:
Fans of this novel (and there are a whole lot of them; it's hard to dislike this book, frankly) argue that this book deserves the "classic" label more quickly than a lot of other contemporary novels do (after all, the book's only 27 years old at this point), precisely because it deals with issues from an age of classics; so in other words, because it's set in Medieval times, is written in Dark Age vernacular and includes historical details worthily accurate of the respected academe Eco is, fans claim that of course The Name of the Rose will eventually be a classic, such a foregone conclusion that we might as well declare it one now. Ah, but there's also a much stronger argument for this being considered a classic right now; as mentioned, many of those who study the esoteric academic field of semiotics claim that the novel is a perfect example of what they do, explained in layman's terms so that non-academes can finally get it. As such, then, these people claim that The Name of the Rose is not just an exciting DaVinci-Code-style historical thriller, but also a densely layered examination of stories about stories about stories, of symbols about symbols about symbols, of the meaning behind meaning behind meaning. Yeah, see what they mean when they say that semiotics is a hard thing to explain to the general public?

The argument against:
The main argument against this being a classic seems to be one brought up a lot with well-written yet contemporary books ("contemporary" in this case being any less than half a century old) -- that the book is simply too new to be able to reasonably judge whether it should rightly be called a timeless classic, one of those fabled "books you should read before you die." For just one example, when The Name of the Rose first came out in 1980, it was the first time anyone had ever tried setting a rational Holmesian-style mystery story within a Medieval monastery; in the years since, we've had all kinds of projects on the subject, including a popular weekly BBC/Masterpiece series. It's a great book, even its critics are quick to point out, even if somewhat on the dry side at points (ugh, all those debates about papal decrees); but who's to say if anyone's going to even remember this novel a hundred years from now, or the notoriously spotty career Eco has since had as a novelist. (Don't forget, Eco is mostly a scholar and historian; although considered a rockstar in the academic world, his reputation as a writer of fiction is much more contentious.)

My verdict:
So let's make it clear right off the bat -- that from a pure entertainment standpoint, The Name of the Rose is one of the most delightful novels I've read in years, years. It's funny, it's smart, it's insightful, it's thrilling, it's nerdy; Cheese And Rice, it's everything a lover of books could possibly ever want from a well-done one. But is it a classic? Well, unfortunately, I think I'm going to have to agree with the critics on this one; that although it could very well become a classic one day, one of those Catcher in the Rye style "one-hit wonders" that populate so many lists, I think it's simply too early to make such a call either in a positive or negative way, especially considering Eco's otherwise spotty career as a novelist. That's part of the point of "classics" lists existing, after all, and why those who care about such lists take them so seriously; because ultimately such a designation should reflect not only how good a book itself is, but how well it's stood the test of time, of how relevant it's continued to be to generation after generation, of how timeless the author's style and word-choice. One always has to be careful when adding newish books to such lists, especially novels less than 30 years old, because we have no idea at this point how such books are going to stand the test of time; load up your classics list with such titles, and your list suddenly becomes worthless fluff, as relevant and important as a whole evening of handing out freakin' Quill Awards. It's for this reason that I'm excluding The Name of the Rose from my own personal Canon, although still highly encourage all of you to actually read it, just from the standpoint of pure enjoyment.

Is it a classic? Not yet
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April 21, 2008
If I had to spend a year on a desert island and was only allowed to take one book, this would be it.

At the time of its publication, one reviewer described `The Name of the Rose' as "a book about everything". At first glance, it may seem to be a book largely about obscure Fourteenth Century religious controversies, heresies and sects, with a murder mystery mixed in. But this is a book that rewards repeat readings (I've just finished it for the seventh time), and the heart of the novel is in its exposition of semiotics - the world as a blizzard of signs and life and thought as their constant interpretation. Just as Brother William of Baskerville guides the na?ve Adso through the world of the monastery and the wider world of knowledge and reason, so Eco guides the reader through a story where few things are what they seem and everything can be read several ways.

Even the `obscure Fourteenth Century sects', which many readers find bewildering, dull or both, represent far more than they seem at first glance. The long controversy over the poverty of Christ and its application in the medieval Church forms the focus for a wide-ranging analysis of how ideals can motivate and inspire different people in different ways. In this novel we find skeptics (like William), mystical non-conformists (like Umbertino de Casale), terrorists and revolutionaries (like the Dolcinite heretics) and rigid fundamentalists (like Jorge and Bernard Gui). At the time of its first publication, the parallels between the book's religious politics and modern manifestations of the same ways of thinking, including Cold War political expediency and terrorists like the Red Brigades, would have been obvious to Italian readers. These days, in the wake of 9/11 and the Iraq War, Eco's analysis has not lost any of its resonance.

Some warnings for new readers - if you think (the truly appalling) `The Da Vinci Code' was "masterful writing", you probably want to save yourself time and effort and read something else. It's not as daunting as many make out, but "Rose" is far from a light read. Eco also deliberately made the first 100 pages a difficult read, but stick with it. All those obscure politics and odd names do make some sense after a while.

Secondly, many reviewers have complained about the untranslated Latin passages. Despite what some of them have said, these are rarely more than a line or two and usually short lines at that. Medievalists will recognise most of them anyway (they are quotes from the Vulgate, Occam and Aquinas and so on, and usually famous ones), but non-specialists will usually get the essence of them from their contexts. In almost all cases they are roughly translated or paraphrased in the dialogue that precedes or follows them anyway, so they aren't actually `untranslated' at all - they just look that way.

Thirdly, people who approach this novel merely as a medieval whodunit a la the Brother Caedfel mysteries are likely to find `Rose' a strain. While the mystery story forms the basis of the plot, there is a lot more to this novel than plot. Some have said they found the mystery clich¨¦d and derivative of other mysteries. Ummm ... yes - Eco is a postmodernist. It's *meant* to be derivative.

The real joy of this novel is its layers of meaning, which is why it's one that can be read and re-read with new discoveries every time. It's a delight to read and great exercise for the mind and spirit, as well as a counter to those who think the Middle Ages was simply a period of superstition and ignorance. Far from being an anachronism or a prefigurement of more `enlightened' times, William of Baskerville represents the medieval voices of reason, innovation and logic that are ignored by most popular representations of this badly misunderstood period.

A must read - but with your brain well and truly in high gear.
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717 reviews1,067 followers
September 16, 2022
¡°Huye, Adso, de los profetas y de los que est¨¢n dispuestos a morir por la verdad, porque suelen provocar tambi¨¦n la muerte de muchos otros, a menudo antes que la propia, y a veces en lugar de la propia.¡±

A veces me pregunto por qu¨¦ raz¨®n tardo tanto en leer ciertos cl¨¢sicos, por qu¨¦ pasa el tiempo y tomo la decisi¨®n de comenzarlos. No es la primera vez que sucede. Con esta novela casi perfecta de Umberto Eco me ha pasado lo mismo. Cuando finalizo uno de estos libros, me doy cuenta de mi error, omisi¨®n o torpeza.
Nunca hab¨ªa le¨ªdo a Eco, con excepci¨®n de un libro a modo de entrevista (muy lindo por cierto que se llama "Nadie acabar¨¢ con los libros) aunque conoc¨ªa perfectamente de qui¨¦n se trataba.
Como con otros autores, me asombro del enorme nivel de erudici¨®n y conocimientos que ten¨ªa este profesor italiano, ensayista, experto en semi¨®tica ocupando la c¨¢tedra de la Universidad de Bolonia, fil¨®sofo, novelista, traductor y cr¨ªtico literario, en fin, un genio...
Su legado es vasto, enorme y seguramente seguir¨¦ leyendo algunos libros m¨¢s de su autor¨ªa como "El p¨¦ndulo de Foucault" o "El cementerio de Praga".
Poco m¨¢s puedo agregar que no se haya dicho de esta, su mejor novela de todos los tiempos, publicada en 1980 y aclamada por todo el mundo, que originariamente hab¨ªa llamado " La abad¨ªa del delito" y la que luego, cambi¨® por "El nombre de la rosa".
En sus "Apostillas", Eco nos dice que opt¨® por este t¨ªtulo lleno de significados y propenso a la confusi¨®n por parte de quien lee en sus "Apostillas": ?Ya casi los ha perdido todos: rosa m¨ªstica, y como rosa ha vivido lo que viven las rosas, la guerra de las dos rosas, una rosa es una rosa, los rosacruces, gracias por las espl¨¦ndidas rosas, rosa fresca toda fragancia?, que se relaciona a la trama de la novela, tan desconcertante por momentos y en donde se trata de llegar a una soluci¨®n final que est¨¢ oculta.
Los hechos son narrados por Adso de Melk, quien, cuando joven es asistente de Fray Guillermo de Baskerville, una especie de monje mezclado con Sherlock Holmes, de una brillante capacidad de raciocinio altamente deductivo, a quien le encargan averiguar un asesinato u homicidio sucedido en una abad¨ªa benedictina.
Con Guillermo y Adso como personajes principales, iremos conociendo a otros que ser¨¢n muy importantes durante todo el desarrollo de la novela como el Abad Abone (pieza clave de todo este asunto), el monje Ubertino, el Inquisidor Bernardo de Guidi, Malaqu¨ªas de Hildesheim y luego los dem¨¢s monje de la orden que completan parte de la primera l¨ªnea de personajes secundarios como Adelmo da Otranto, Berengario de Arundel, Venancio de Salvemec, Bencio de Upsala, Remigio da Varagine, Severino da Saint'Emmerano, Alinardo de Grottaferrata (con sus ¨¦picas trompetas prof¨¦ticas) y varios m¨¢s.
Todos ellos crean un conjunto de posibles sospechosos o v¨ªctimas, seg¨²n el lector lo considere, ya que a partir de la primera muerte los hechos comenzar¨¢n a tornarse muy intricados y el suspenso ir¨¢ en aumento.
Lo notable de "El nombre de la rosa" es la diversidad de caracter¨ªsticas que posee, ya que es una novela de neto corte policial, es una impresionante reconstrucci¨®n de la ¨¦poca medieval, dado que la acci¨®n transcurre en el a?o 1327, es un compendio de lat¨ªn,porque las frases en este idioma aparecen pr¨¢cticamente cada p¨¢rrafo por medio y obviamente se relacionan con lo religioso, es un tratado de Teolog¨ªa y de historia de la fe cat¨®lica, es un acercamiento al mundo de los libros llamados incunables, o sea, aquellos que fueron impresos desde la aparici¨®n de la imprenta hasta el a?o 1500 (Eco pose¨ªa en su biblioteca personal una gran cantidad de ellos, obviamente invalorables), posee tambi¨¦n la inclusi¨®n de un sinn¨²mero de referencias a la Biblia (lo que demuestra el conocimiento total que Eco pose¨ªa de ella), es en cierto modo una gran cr¨ªtica al sistema sacerdotal y a la supuesta mezcla de conspiraciones, decadencia y corrupci¨®n que este encierra, ya que a modo de cr¨ªtica, Eco remarca c¨®mo a lo largo de la historia, Papas, sacerdotes y obispos han estado (y a¨²n sigue estando) involucrados en hechos de corrupci¨®n, blasfemia, sodom¨ªa y abusos de todo orden y todo nivel y es uno de los puntos principales de los que trata "El nombre de la rosa", el del intento de desenmascarar a los verdaderos culpables no s¨®lo de los cr¨ªmenes que se comenten en la abad¨ªa, sino tambi¨¦n de demostrar que no todo es santo en este ¨¢mbito, que est¨¢ impregnado de decadencia, corrompido por los mismos hombres que fomentan el bien cuando en realidad son justamente lo contrario.
A partir de cada muerto que va apareciendo, la novela se va asemejando a esos thrillers del estilo de la pel¨ªcula "Siete pecados capitales", logrando que todos desconf¨ªen de todos y en medio de semejante desconcierto, Guillermo de Baskerville trata de no perder el foco de su investigaci¨®n, mientras que tambi¨¦n Adso es arrastrado por la vor¨¢gine de perversi¨®n y muerte.
En la novela nos encontramos tambi¨¦n con verdaderas clases de lat¨ªn, una acalorada discusi¨®n acerca de la risa, una conexi¨®n con la carnavalizaci¨®n bajtiniana, una acercamiento al misterio del Apocalipsis, libros ap¨®crifos, compendios ¨¢rabes, textos en griego, lecciones de bot¨¢nica que abarca plantas, flores y venenos, la filosof¨ªa de Roger Bacon, la corrupci¨®n de los valores, la ca¨ªda del hombre hacia la corrupci¨®n de la carne, las alianzas y traiciones entre los monjes, (al fin y al cabo son humanos) y un sinf¨ªn de perversiones, deseos, alucinaciones, suicidios, cr¨ªmenes, accidentes y tragedias.
P¨¢rrafo aparte para el homenaje de Umberto Eco hacia Jorge Luis Borges, en la figura del bibliotecario ciego, Jorge de Burgos, uno de los personajes m¨¢s importantes de esta novela, que resume toda la sabidur¨ªa que el gran escritor argentino pose¨ªa.
En la biblioteca del piso m¨¢s alto de la abad¨ªa est¨¢ la clave para desentra?ar el misterio de todo lo que sucede, pero ya en las primeras p¨¢ginas, el Abad se lo proh¨ªbe a Guillermo (y a nosotros los lectores), y para complicar inclusive mucho m¨¢s la investigaci¨®n de Guillermo, est¨¢ construida como un aut¨¦ntico laberinto (otro gui?o a Borges y a su cuento "La biblioteca de Babel" del libro "Ficciones"), entonces, el ¨²nico recurso que nos queda es acompa?ar a Guillermo y a Adso a descubrir la verdad, si es que esto puede lograrse ya que el camino hacia la verdad es tortuoso y en medio de ¨¦l est¨¢n los hombres y es justamente por esa raz¨®n que tal vez, sea inalcanzable...
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April 19, 2024
I was attracted to The Name of the Rose some years ago when I learned that its story is centered on a medieval mystery set in an Italian Abbey. Now, I'm quite a fan of the mystery genre and I love history. Hence it went onto my "to read" pile. But it was there for quite some time, almost forgotten. But two years back, I visited the Melk Abbey, and I had a vague recollection that I've got a book in my collection that had some reference to the Abbey. Back at home, a quick search made me realize that it was The Name of the Rose. And what with my interest in history, mystery genre, and my visit to Melk Abbey, the book naturally gained priority in my reading order.

That is the history. Now I'll come to my reading experience. The Name of the Rose is by no means an easy book to read. It is heavy with medieval history and religious calamities of the time. The mystery, although cleverly written, felt more like an average mystery because its plot was so disturbed by historical and religious details that poured abundantly from Eco's pen. At first, it was difficult for me to get into the book. I felt the plot to be treading uncertainly, groping in the darkness to find its true path. Yet, though the plot suffered, I was drawn to the book as if by some magic. Eco's rich prose, through which he brings us a forgotten historical account of medieval time, recompensed enough to engage my attention. If I admired a book while still being exasperated to no end, I can easily say that The Name of the Rose falls within the category.

The plot of the book revolves around a series of murders that take place in a wealthy Franciscan abbey in Italy and one Franciscan friar's attempt at finding the criminal. The story sounds pretty interesting when summed up like that, but unfortunately, the historical and religious details make inroads into the plot and impede its smooth continuity. As a result, the story feels disjointed and incoherent. However, Eco throws in an interesting and diverse character set that, no matter what flaws founded in the plot, the story was felt alive and moving. Eco's rich prose and humour at times when you least expect it added much to the enjoyment. Honestly, it was the history, the setting, the characters, and Eco's writing that helped me sail through it.

Rating the book was quite a chore. So, I finally decided to break the story into sections and to rate it accordingly. The plot - 3 stars; the history, setting, characters, and writing - 4 stars. The scale was heavy on the latter side, hence the overall rating of 4 stars. I'm sure this rating gives quite a clear and honest picture of the book. If you are a mystery fan and are plot-driven, and not interested in medieval history and ancient architecture, this is not for you. But if you are quite in the opposite, I'm sure you'll enjoy it as much as I did.
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April 24, 2023
Ante scriptum. Acum e o mod? s?-l conte?ti pe Umberto Eco. Totu?i, nu m? va convinge nimeni c? am citit un roman mediocru...

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La o nou? edi?ie, revizuit?, un comentariu nou cu privire la scena de bibliofagie din finalul c?r?ii.

?n Biblie, exist? dou? ?mprejur?ri (una ?n Vechiul Testament, cealalt? ?n Noul Testament) ?n care un personaj e ?ndemnat s? ?nghit? o carte, s? practice, astfel, bibliofagia: cele dou? personaje s?nt, toat? lumea ?tie, profetul Iezechiel ?i sf?ntul Ioan Teologul. Citez din Apocalipsa celui din urm?: ??i m-am dus la ?nger ?i i-am zis s?-mi dea cartea. ?i mi-a r?spuns: Ia-o ?i m?n?nc-o ?i va am?r? p?ntecele t?u, dar ?n gura ta va fi dulce ca mierea¡±. Prin ?nghi?ire, adev?rul c?r?ii, semnifica?iile ei s?nt complet asimilate. ?nghi?irea e o form? de lectur? somatic?.

Umberto Eco se va fi g?ndit, cu siguran??, la aceste locuri din Biblie c?nd, la sf?r?itul romanului, ?l pune pe sinistrul c?lug?r Jorge de Burgos s? ?nghit? ultimul exemplar din continuarea Poeticii lui Aristotel. Citez ?nc? o dat?:
?A ?nceput, cu m?inile sale desc?rnate ?i delicate, s? sf??ie ?ncet, ?n buc??i ?i ?n f??ii, paginile ?nmuiate ale manuscrisului, b?g?ndu-?i-le ghemotoace ?n gur? ?i mestec?ndu-le ?ncet, ca ?i cum ar fi m?ncat ostia sf?nt?, ?i ar fi vrut s-o preschimbe ?n carne din propria lui carne. Gugliemlo ?l privea fascinat ?i p?rea c? nu-?i d? seama de ceea ce se ?nt?mpla. Apoi s-a scuturat ?i s-a repezit ?nainte strig?nd:
- Ce faci? Jorge a z?mbit, dezvelindu-?i gingiile golite de s?nge, ?n timp ce o ?uvi?? de bale g?lbui ?i curgea de pe buzele albite pe firele albe ?i rare de p?r ale b?rbiei.
- Tu e?ti cel care a?tepta sunetul celei de-a ?aptea tr?mbi?e, nu-i a?a? Ascult? acum ce spune glasul: pecetluie?te cele ce au spus cele ?apte tunete, ?i nu scrie, ia-le ?i devor?-le, ele vor am?r? p?ntecul t?u, dar pentru gura ta dulci vor fi, precum mierea. Vezi? Acum pecetluiesc ceea ce nu trebuie spus, ?n morm?ntul care devin¡±.

Exist?, cu toate acestea, o mare deosebire ?ntre scenele de bibliofagie din Biblie ?i aceea imaginat? de Umberto Eco. ?n Biblie, ?nghi?irea este un mod de a face viu ?n?elesul c?r?ii, de a prelungi existen?a ei ?n fiin?a ?ns??i a ?cititorului¡±, a devoratorului. ?n Numele trandafirului, Jorge de Burgos vrea pur ?i simplu s? distrug? manuscrisul p?g?n despre legile comediei. Distrugerea manuscrisului coincide cu distrugerea celui care ?l ?nghite. Ceea ce nu se ?nt?mpl? ?n cartea lui Iezechiel sau ?n Apocalips?. ?n Biblie, rostul ?nghi?irii este cu totul altul...
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April 27, 2010
What a didactic, tedious, prolix piece of trash! Eco writes whole paragraphs in Latin and then leaves them untranslated, because he's such an awesome polyglot that chicks want to do him. Readers are also expected to know Dutch. Eco likes to hear himself talk, too. Want to hear pedantic 14th-century theological arguments that stretch on for pages and have nothing to do with the plot? You've got it! Want a lame Dan Brown mystery, with the same stilted dialogue, but embellished with entire chapters of the author showing off how much trivia he knows about ancient Arab codices? No problem! The guy is such a tool that this is how he describes himself on the jacket: Umberto Eco is a world-famous specialist in semiotics, a distinguished historian, philosopher, aesthetician, and scholar whose interests range from St. Thomas Aquinas to James Joyce to Superman. I'm going to hurl. Aesthetician? Please. More like assthetician.

Do you think I'm exaggerating? I've proof: I've copied this terrible passage wherein the hero discovers how to enter the secret chamber, using his knowledge of the genitive case in Latin. Be careful not to hurl as you read this.

[The old Monk, William, and the narrator apprentice, Adso, are hiding out in the stables.:]
To his right, the the third animal in line raised his head, sensing our presence, and whinnied. I smiled. "Tertius equi," I said.
"What?" William asked.
"Nothing. I was remembering poor Salvatore. He wanted to perform God knows what magic with that horse, and, with his fractured Latin he called him 'tertius equi.' Which would be the u."
"The u?" asked William, who had heard my prattle without paying much attention to it.
"Yes, because 'tertiu equi' does not mean the third horse, but the third of the horse, and the third letter of the word 'equus' is u. But this is all nonsense..."
William looked at me, and in the darkness I seemed to see his face transformed. "God bless you, Adso!" he said to me. "Why, of course, suppositio materialis, the discourse is presumed de dicto and not de re....What a fool I am!" He gave himself such a great blow on the forehead that I heard a clap, and I believe he hurt himself. "My boy, this is the second time today that wisdom has spoken through your mouth, first in dream and now in waking! Run, run to your cell and fetch the lamp, or, rather, both lamps we hid. Let no one see you, and join me in the church at once! Ask no questions."
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I ran into the church. William was under the tripod and was rereading the parchment with Venantius's notes.
"Adso," he said to me, "'primum et septimum de equator' does not mean the first and seventh of four, but of the four, the word 'four'!" For a moment I still did not understand, but then I was enlightened: "Super thronos viginti quatuor! The writing! The verse! The words are carved over the mirror!"
"Come," William said, "perhaps we are still in time to save a life!"
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November 15, 2022
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Forget Christopher Hitchens. Away with that Richard Doggins guy. For a truly penetrating look at religion and atheism, Umberto Eco, he da man.

The Name of the Rose is a profoundly nihilistic book. It is ostensibly a book about a murder mystery: A man, a monk rather, Brother William, arrives with his assistant, Adso, at an abbey high in the Italian Alps. A murder has been committed, and Brother William will apply reason and logic¡ªa Sherlock avant la lettre¡ªto deduce the murderer. Or does he? He does indeed find out the process by which the victims die. And there is a villain.

The novel begins, ¡°In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.¡± And it then proceeds to systematically dismantle all words¡ªmerely signifiers leading to other signifiers labyrinth without end. Umberto Eco stares in the abyss, and the abyss laughs mockingly back.

I was profoundly moved, depressed, and discombobulated. Five stars ¨Cwhatever the hell that means.
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This is one humdinger of a book - medieval history, Gothic noir and classic whodunit rolled into one. It's very slow - but taking your time to read it slowly provides rich dividends, IMO. This is a book to be savoured.

Brother William of Baskerville - the name, as well as his appearance marks him as a sort of medieval Sherlock Holmes - is the detective par excellence, and Adso of Melk is the perfect Watson. The story unfolds in the fashion of the classic mystery. The secret, when it is revealed, is sufficiently shocking - and points a finger to a real historic puzzle.

A word of advice: please don't watch the movie before you read the book.

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PS: Umberto Eco incidentally passed away the day I originally posted this review. So let this be my tribute to a great writer.
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This novel belongs to the few ones which I reread at least twice yearly. It;s one of the best novels ever written. I've been the admirer of The Name of the Rose for many, many years now, and I remember reading it for the first time when I was in high school. I reckon I didn't understand much then regarding the dispute which is the theme around which this novel revolves. Now, with every read, I discover something new... what could any reader expect more from a novel?
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