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Thoughts after "The Elite": Team Maxon or Team Aspen?

i just hope that maxon isn't toying with America and that there's not more to the Kriss story than we know already.



Also, it seems that a lot of people don't like Aspen bc of how he dumped her and then came back, so he can't be the endgame for Ames bc of that. For me, I hate him bc of how he puts her in danger by constantly entering her room, leaving notes in broad daylight, etc. He's a guard, he knows every rule, he's seen how a couple has already been punished for breaking the same rule, yet he doesn't even blink and takes America on a date the very next day >:( I mean, DOES HIS BRAIN WORK AT ALL???




Um...I hate the whole Team suggestion I've hated that for years, but I guess you could say I'm rooting for Maxon. Aspen was puppy love. However I am still extremely mad and betrayed by Maxon...I understand using Kriss to make America jealous and forcing her into admitting her feelings for him, but as far as I'm concerned Maxon took a swim in a sewage pipe when he dallied with Celeste. He didn't just step over a line he took a flying leap over it and in turn lost all sense of Regalness in my eyes. I guess what I'm saying is if the Rebels stole America away and America meets and falls in love with a Rebel we meet in the 3rd book I wouldnt be all that depressed about it.
Sincerely
Still Smarting
Sincerely
Still Smarting
Maxon pissed me off!! I mean seriously Celeste???and his explanation was no excuse- ltl bitch.
I just don't trust Maxon or Aspen at all. I think this is one love story that needs to end with America loving herself and accepting her greatness. If she ends up alone I would be happy.



Heres your chance to make the sereis from 'like' to 'freaking awesome' Miss Cass, one whole year, plenty of time.




YAY, another Luspen shipper :P
I agree that Maxon's reasoning for kissing Kriss to see if there's chemistry is a bit weird BUT, he knows he doesn't feel for Kriss what he feels for Ames, his heart is already given away (he said it himself). So he already knows it won't be the same with Kriss. I think he just wants that kiss to be smtg like a test, to see if that maybe inspires some more passionate and lustful feels. Personally I hope he doesn't get to kiss Kriss at all. My heart would bleed a little then :( The same way I hope Ames won't be getting touchy-feely with Aspen anymore. 3rd book needs to be all about Maxon & America, please, Mrs. Cass!!!

I'm upset because Maxon was all like "You're the only one for me. I need you," then he turns around and gropes Celeste. And the whole Kriss thing is more understandable and I get that he has to make a choice, but I wouldn't be able to do that. If I love someone I don't mess around with other people, I'm not strong enough for that I guess.

And I have to say, this book was really a rollercoaster ride. I found myself angry at every. single. character. Even Maxon.
I understand that the point of The Selection is for the prince to date other girls. I do. But there were a lot of times where I felt that Maxon was just being insensitive and selfish, not considering even slightly the feelings of the other girls. Okay, so mostly I'm talking about (view spoiler) . I was really lost on his character, because he seems like the old Maxon and some parts and a complete jerk at other parts.
Aspen. Ughhhh well, safe to say that the boy has guts. Or that he's a complete idiot. He was ruining Maxon in America's eyes and constantly putting her in danger with their secret meetings and sneaking around. He's selfish. And I do think that he sees America as a competition between himself and Maxon, especially now that he's a Two.
My feelings for both of the love interests were pretty negative for the majority of the book. But the small glimpses that we've had of Maxon, the ones where he shows potential of really making a change in Illea, and the ones of the moments between himself and America that are only for them, keep me rooting for Maxon and America. I think that they could truly change how Illea is run, for the better.


Also, it seems that a lot of people don't like Aspen bc of how he dumped her and then came back, so h..."
(Coming out of my rock with a shield) I would think so, or he'd be brain dead (Hiding back under my rock)

(Re-Coming out of my rock with a sword) Aspen's crazy for America, can't you see it on the side of a Tree it's be A + A = Love not M + A = Ma (Retreating to my rock)

No no, I agree completely. The reason I didn't like Aspen in the first book was because we never got to see his relationship with America grow, we only heard about it. Seeing Maxon and America's relationship growing from a friendship was really great to see for me. And I do feel for Aspen because all he wanted was a better life for America, and now he's able to provide that for her but she's looking at another man. I know that his decisions have always had America's best interests at the Center, even if it didn't look like that for a while.
My big problem with Aspen came in The Elite after (view spoiler) . The fact that he knowingly put not only himself and America in danger of the consequences of being caught, but also Maxon. I thought he was so selfish, to say that he's only wanted what's best for America and then to go initiating secret meetings and notes that could have gotten himself and America either killed or stripped of their castes.
It was stupid, no matter how much he thought that he was fighting for her. And that stupid stupid stupid note (view spoiler) ... Really? Reallyyyyy?!
I get that he loves America, I do. He only sees himself with America, okay. But he needed to realize that that is America's decision to make. And he needs to respect whatever decision she does make in the end, if he really loves her as he says he does.
I love you for standing up for your man though haha, Aspen needs people to believe in him too :P


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Interviewer: Have you known right from the start who America was going to end up with?
Kiera Cass: When I sat down and wrote it out the first time, I did. I knew who she was supposed to be with. And as I got to the end of the first book, I realized I didn’t know America as well as I thought I did—a lot of things about her were different. So when I went back and rewrote it I realized she would pick someone different. So yes and no. Because the person that she ends up with changes. It is exactly who she would have picked, I just wasn’t paying attention.
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What do you guys think?
My thoughts: (view spoiler) Although maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part. Haha.
Awesome to hear what you guys think.


I am hoping for Lucy and Aspen too!!

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Okay - I find it hard to believe that Kiera would write a novella from Maxon's POV and then just have Ames turn around and go back to Aspen. I don't think it would be a good idea to anger the majority of her fans who are for Ames and Maxon to be together. It just seems like so many things need to be resolved in one book, that I'm wondering if I'm placing too much importance on minor details or even sentences from The Elite.

Something really fishy is going on with Aspen. He "loves" her but is constantly putting her in danger of being canned.
I also think it is ironic that America got MAD at Maxon kissing Celeste when she has been kissing Aspen behind his back.
Mer, please go with Maxon! Maxrica all the way or whatever.
Ship. Aspen. And. Kriss. Please!

Someth..."
I felt betrayed on behalf of America. Which is the same, since I felt betrayed on behalf of Maxon for the past two books.
I have given up on understanding Aspen and his intentions.
I choose instead to imagine all of the Maxerica possibilities now that (view spoiler)

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Best. Post. Ever.

thank you, thank you... I'll be here until The One.
(Which is WAY TOO FAR BY THE WAY)

And I hate/loathe/detest Aspen because he's so selfish! The VERY DAY after they witnessed Marlee's public punishment, I would've thought he would stop making advances and think of America's sake but he did the opposite! If he truly cared about her, he would not put her in danger in the first place. And need I remind you, Aspen, you were the one who pushed America to join the Selection and broke up with her. And breaking up with a person generally means you don't have a right to that person's love life anymore. I liked you in the first part of Book 1 but from then on you just went downhill.




Oh gosh, when (view spoiler) I don't think I've ever been so angry/embarrassed. That was so stupid of her.
But she made up for it at the end so it's okay America, I still want you to be The One :)

Me too :) I really hope that we dig more into Maxon and Aspen's mind in the next book. I'm really curious as to ****spoilers****why Maxon fooled around with Celeste and why Aspen continued to sneak around with America despite what happened to Marlee. And America better redeem herself after that speech haha.

totally!!

Ugggh. I have nothing against the author or anything. (Because, really, she is to commended for playing my emotions.) Just the story itself and just the characters itself! Uggh.
I'm team ASPEN now. ALL THE WAY. But even him, I don't like that much. Gaaaah, I wanna throw everything I see now. She should've just left the castle. Then I'll have a peaceful ending. (lol)
*sigh* That's it. I don't care who she ends up with.

Aspen has always been there for her, other then the whole breaking up with her thing but he said that that was so that she wouldn't have to live with him being a six because he wanted the best for her, thats why he told her to try out for the selection in the first place, because he loved her.
Then once he realized that he could support her as a two he decided to fight for her again, that and he's in love with her. Or he said some form of that, not exact wording, anyway he has always been there for her and he has given her his whole heart while Maxon is off doing things with other girls *celeste* and not able to decide between Kriss and America, I understand that America has made some dumb decisions but if you love a girl it shouldn't matter, honestly I hope she ends up with Aspen and somehow becomes the queen, I understand that that won't happen though, just my dream ending.
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Personally I am team Maxon all the way. I was on his team in book 1 and stayed on his team after book 2, even though he did some pretty stupid things :P