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We all know GR has had it’s share of drama. We’re battle-scarred & throw up our hands saying “we just want to read books�.

So, I, too, got the message from the troll "Kay". But, unlike some, I believe what she posted is true. And IF any of it’s true, it isn’t just drama. It is HUGELY problematic, potentially illegal, and has the power to really hurt people.

Please, just think through a few of these things:
Mar 05, 2018 01:57PM

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Ariana  (mostly offline) AGandyGirl wrote: "Ariana wrote: "Susan wrote: "Amy wrote: ""

I think it's only for people in a certain group? I can't access the post."

Wonder which one, be..."


Thank you! Got it, joined and read it. She is great!


message 352: by Olizia (new)

Olizia En shock, aplausos!


message 353: by Karen (new)

Karen Wellsbury Elsa wrote: "I read Vanessa, she is cancelled. In two days she will speak about victims and women again, another one who has no shame."

one rule for one. (although I am struggling a bit in certain people identifying as victims - but that's 1 or 2 out of so many.) Vanessa would rather be friendly with one of the most misogynistic people about as well as defending SH


message 354: by Stellaria (new)

Stellaria I'm not from USA and I'm not a native English speaker. I'm from Europe. I don't know how it works in America, but in my country there are too many examples that a bad publicity and drama around someone can make him/her 5 times more popular than it was before. With that said, I don't think SH will get what he deserve unfortunately. And it's sad that all the talking would probably make him even more readable :( You have too many blogs, sites, etc. where you write about the authors you love which is making the punishment even more difficult. I unfollowed him here in GR and I won't buy any of his future books. Please tell me if I can do anything to help, because what he did was awful and I feel ashamed I didn't know anything about him when I bought his books and said I'm a true fan...


message 355: by Anne-Marie (new)

Anne-Marie Good to hear authors like Leta Blake and Dani Alexander are engaging. I agree that spreading the word is the way to go. And in the age of #metoo the uncovering of liars, harassers, abusers and bullies gains momentum more easily. We are finally listening to each other and no longer keeping quiet! That is what will keep this from blowing over.


message 356: by Lasha (new)

Lasha Karen wrote: "Elsa wrote: "I read Vanessa, she is cancelled. In two days she will speak about victims and women again, another one who has no shame."

one rule for one. (although I am struggling a bit in certain..."


I probably don't want to know, but what author calls women dirty birds and s*** weasels? I just put Vanessa on my do not read ever list.


Ariana  (mostly offline) Suzanne wrote: "Thanks to Leta, Dani Alexander, Isobel Starling & Tarian Knock, more people are becoming aware of this situation. So many only heard whispers and didn’t know there were so many stories out there. I..."

Apart from all the other more than awful stuff, I was shocked to hear how SH talked about Alexis Hall.


message 358: by Elsa (last edited Mar 08, 2018 10:52AM) (new)

Elsa Bravante Lasha wrote: "Karen wrote: "Elsa wrote: "I read Vanessa, she is cancelled. In two days she will speak about victims and women again, another one who has no shame."

one rule for one. (although I am struggling a ..."


It´s not an author, is a reader, and I´m one of the people he had called a lot of things. He´s friend with Vanessa, Megan, Santino, etc and one of the most toxic persons that I meet in the genre.


message 359: by Elsa (new)

Elsa Bravante I think I should say that others authors have spoken without names like Avery Cockburn, J.C. Long, Xen/Cole McCade and others with their likes.


message 360: by *Bohemian* (new)

*Bohemian* Let’s add Keira Andrews on the list to give thumbs up!


message 361: by Elsa (new)

Elsa Bravante Elsa wrote: "Lasha wrote: "Karen wrote: "Elsa wrote: "I read Vanessa, she is cancelled. In two days she will speak about victims and women again, another one who has no shame."

one rule for one. (although I am..."


You can find the screenshoots with that reader in Nikki´s account.


message 362: by JenMcJ (new)

JenMcJ Are any of these facebook posts public? I don't want to join any personal pages...is there a screenshot anywhere of what Leta and others posted?


message 363: by AGandyGirl (new)

AGandyGirl Manda wrote: "Let’s add Keira Andrews on the list to give thumbs up!"

YES!! I love her!


message 364: by *Bohemian* (new)

*Bohemian* Alexandr Voinov stood up and shared posts and comments.


message 365: by Jax (new)

Jax If there is all this evidence of fraud and bullying towards respected members of the ŷ and m/m blogging community , why are so many people still supporting him? What is so appealing about SH? Always seemed to be trying to hard to be "gritty" and "real" to me.


message 366: by Elsa (new)

Elsa Bravante Matthew J. Metzger shared too.


message 367: by *Bohemian* (new)

*Bohemian* Marbles wrote: "Manda wrote: "Alexandr Voinov stood up and shared posts and comments."

I think he deleted them pretty quick, unless there's something new in the last few hours."


Yes, he has posted discussions and blog entries etc mere minutes agao.


message 368: by Marina (new)

Marina Guys, go to Riptide on Twitter, apparently they are conducting an investigation.


message 369: by Elsa (new)

Elsa Bravante Marbles wrote: "Manda wrote: "Alexandr Voinov stood up and shared posts and comments."

I think he deleted them pretty quick, unless there's something new in the last few hours."


He wrote a lot of threads from the begining in Twitter, he was the first author who said anything.


message 370: by Jan (new)

Jan Alona wrote: "This is going to be a bit long, and, though I read in English its not my first language so I apologize in advance for any mistakes.

We are all shocked, hurt, angry etc' about SH and "his" "friends..."


I'm horrified with all this, Alona ;'-(
Not only with the fact that this bullying/harassment just ruined something good you had here but also with the proportions this has taken JUST because of a bloody review. The horror. It's your space and it's your opinion. We have no obligation at all to like all books we read. In fact, readers who only toss 4 and 5 stars are not trusted by me.
I am really sorry for what happened to you. Wish I knew all the names :(


message 371: by Kim the Strange (new)

Kim the Strange I just want to say a huge Thank you to all the individuals that have bravely come forward with their stories.

I was never a SH fan (pretty much hated “his� stuff immediately) but I have several close friends who loved the books. So I completely understand why they’re fighting so hard to get the truth out. I hope all this shines a light on a truly horrible individual!

Keeping fighting the good fight, you are all amazing.


message 372: by JenMcJ (new)

JenMcJ Marina wrote: "Guys, go to Riptide on Twitter, apparently they are conducting an investigation."

And it's getting comments of support for poor victim, SH. Figures.


message 373: by JenMcJ (new)

JenMcJ

We are aware of the situation with Santino Hassell. The last two days we have been conducting our own investigation, and will be making a statement shortly. We assure you all we are taking this very seriously.

� Riptide Publishing (@RiptideBooks)




Fabi NEEDS Email Notifications the twitter post from Riptide

@RiptideBooks
11 minutes ago
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We are aware of the situation with Santino Hassell. The last two days we have been conducting our own investigation, and will be making a statement shortly. We assure you all we are taking this very seriously.



message 375: by Cadiva (new)

Cadiva Suzanne wrote: "I hope Riptide isn’t just saying they’re conducting a investigation and then say that they have no problems with SH. Until I see something concrete I have my doubts."

This is their status:




message 376: by *Bohemian* (new)

*Bohemian* JenMcJ wrote: "We are aware of the situation with Santino Hassell. The last two days we have been conducting our own investigation, and will be making a statement shortly. We assure you all we are taking this ver..."

Took them time to response anything. Soon I will know if I’m ever going to buy from Riptide again.


message 377: by Lucy (last edited Mar 08, 2018 11:37AM) (new)

Lucy Suzanne wrote: "I saw their status but “he� keeps saying he has the support from “his� publishers etc.... Makes me wonder what’s being looked into. “He’s� probably got them all fooled too!"

That’s the part that concerns me too. It doesn’t make all of these people’s experiences with “him� any less valid either. I’m sure he’s going with they’re stalkers and doxxers. Watch. That will be what is said.


Fabi NEEDS Email Notifications Riptide isn't his only publisher right? I thought I remembered him saying he was publishing with more than house as well as in his own.


message 379: by Issa (new)

Issa Well I'm keeping my expectations low. What could Riptide, or any other publisher, do other than drop SH? They're in the business of making money. Will the bad publicity counter the money SH books make? It's a business, its all it cares about. So I wouldn't be surprised if they find a way to skirt the middle.

I am surprised though Riptide posted anything about it all. And refunding preorders? It's been a while since I bought anything from them but they always refused to do so in the past.

This who thing just blows my mind. And it shouldn't. This crap happens all the time. It's fantastic you all are finally talking about it.


message 380: by Francesca (new)

Francesca Lucy wrote: "Suzanne wrote: "I saw their status but “he� keeps saying he has the support from “his� publishers etc.... Makes me wonder what’s being looked into. “He’s� probably got them all fooled too!"

ճ󲹳’s..."


Yeah, I fear there'll be no addressing the intimidation and gaslighting and toxic behaviour


message 381: by [deleted user] (new)

Sakura wrote: "If you aren't comfortable with focusing your attention on Riptide, focus your attention on Sarah Lyons. As someone who once had a personal relationship with her, I know firsthand that she's basical..."

An editor trying to pressure a writer into a sexual relationship?

If that's true, Sarah Lyons is unethical and unprofessional. I hope Riptide is looking into her behavior as well as Hassell's.

I'm sorry to see Riptide having to deal with this. They do have some excellent writers.


message 382: by Sara (new)

Sara I am sure Riptide will side with Shamtino. They know who the make the checks out to. It may not be Alicia Torres... but she gets the money.

There is no way they don't know and haven't known.

Blah. I can't read Riptide books anyway even though a favorite author of mine is over there. I can't do it. I can't support them when North is way too involved. I see books I really want to read but look the other way.


message 383: by JenMcJ (new)

JenMcJ Fabi wrote: "Riptide isn't his only publisher right? I thought I remembered him saying he was publishing with more than house as well as in his own."

Yes, he's with Dreamspinner as well.


message 384: by Sara (new)

Sara JenMcJ wrote: "Fabi wrote: "Riptide isn't his only publisher right? I thought I remembered him saying he was publishing with more than house as well as in his own."

Yes, he's with Dreamspinner as well."


And InterMix who is Penguin Books and didn't Sham mention something about SMP in their post?


Fabi NEEDS Email Notifications Yeah, I remembered SH was with several publishers as well as publishing on his own.

I still don't believe this was any fault of the publishers. What he's said and done to people is on him and maybe on his friends of they weren't duped as well.


~✡~Dαni(ela) ♥ ♂♂ love & semi-colons~✡~ Suzanne wrote: "Vanessa North is on twitter sticking up for SH and saying she’s met him and what not. Nothing said about the lies about cancer or bullying though."

Vanessa North is vicious and one of the worst bullies out there. She loves to play the victim card anyway she can.


message 387: by Elsa (new)

Elsa Bravante Suki Fleet spoke too :)


~✡~Dαni(ela) ♥ ♂♂ love & semi-colons~✡~ Manda wrote: "Let’s add Keira Andrews on the list to give thumbs up!"

I love her!


message 389: by Jaime (new)

Jaime I want to share this so others can view and form their own opinions.


~✡~Dαni(ela) ♥ ♂♂ love & semi-colons~✡~ Jax wrote: "If there is all this evidence of fraud and bullying towards respected members of the ŷ and m/m blogging community , why are so many people still supporting him? What is so appealing about S..."

Because SH propagates cult behavior.


Fabi NEEDS Email Notifications ~✡~Dαni(ela) � ♂♂ love & semi-colons~✡~ wrote: "Because SH propagates cult behavior. "

Yes! ^^^ That!


message 392: by Sara (new)

Sara Fabi wrote: "Yeah, I remembered SH was with several publishers as well as publishing on his own.

I still don't believe this was any fault of the publishers. What he's said and done to people is on him and mayb..."


I'm not faulting the publishers, other than Riptide right now - just stating who else they published with.


message 393: by *Bohemian* (new)

*Bohemian* Ths is what I wrote to riptide and I expect some kind of respond:

Hello. I worry about how you will respond to this controversy around SH catfishing. I fear how your respond will affect to the innocent authors under your belt. I believe I have seen enough these past days that I’ll stop buying from your publishing house if you turn your bak to the obvious fear and hurt of the readers. Never smoke without a fire, right?


message 394: by Sun (new)

Sun He posted on his twitter. More of A WHOLE LOT OF NOTHING. But he's pretending he's given up.

*he = she = the two of them = the group of them = whatever.


message 395: by AGandyGirl (new)

AGandyGirl Susan wrote: "He posted on his twitter. More of A WHOLE LOT OF NOTHING. But he's pretending he's given up.

*he = she = the two of them = the group of them = whatever."


Plays the victim so well.


message 396: by Elsa (new)

Elsa Bravante He wrote in Twitter.


message 397: by *Bohemian* (new)

*Bohemian* Martyrdom. More emotional manipulation.


message 398: by Lucy (new)

Lucy Manda wrote: "Martyrdom. More emotional manipulation."

Yep. That’s all that is. Blaming anyone who is talking as the reason for leaving. Again with the doxxing lie.


message 399: by *Bohemian* (new)

*Bohemian* Also ME seems to be taking a few steps back on twitter.


message 400: by *Bohemian* (new)

*Bohemian* I bet this is a cordinated move.


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