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Wither by Lauren DeStefano
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After a great deal of reflection, I can't shake off the fondness I had for this novel. For me it had a deep, rich, intoxicating quality that I don't often read in Young Adult novels and has become an increasing rarity for me.

Many reviews make a deal of the problems associated with the implausible premise. If you think that’s going to bother you then you’re best to steer clear of this one. As for me, unbelievable characters or plot holes will ruin my reading experience but I’ve never necessarily been deterred by an implausible story vehicles so long as it gave me a good ride (TWSS). As with Unwind, I prefer to see the value of the idea fulfilled than to wonder over how likely, or unlikely it is.

However, Unwind’s premise was always very clearly tied to its themes and intentions which didn’t always feel as such with Withered. I found it difficult to determine what the main themes of Withered actually were. The value of freedom glimpsed from a gilded cage? The systematic oppression of women when society is placed under stress? The insidious nature of Stockholm syndrome?

Despite the ambiguity of the above, Wither is very readable, complete with unsettling atmosphere, interesting, relatable characters and a compelling plot. I wonder at the characterization of Linden, though, and it worries me. Raise The Red Lantern depicted this setting best, for me, by not even showing the husband on screen.

It strained credibility that he could be so naïve, so blind to the world around him and, at times, felt weak to not portray him as a more realistic character. Realistically, he would have been a character who purchased three girls from slave traders and, with full knowledge and forethought, forced them to marry him.

Perhaps that is the crux of the issue. Despite Rhine’s seeming pragmatism, there was a romanticizing, idealic undertone that couldn’t be ignored. Where the bad people are irredeemably bad and the good are great and we all know which side of that line they’re on. Whether black or white. Still, I can’t complain really. I thought every character was reasonably complex and interesting � even if I would have preferred to read this story with a different type of Linden, just to see a more bold stance by the author.

I think DeStefano’s strong stylistic abilities and natural story telling flare saved this for me. Parts of me wanted it to be a grittier, rawer read, but the other half wasn’t sure my blood pressure would take it.

So if you're looking for an interesting, thought-provoking YA Dystopian, give this a try!



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Reading Progress

August 16, 2010 – Shelved
January 24, 2012 – Started Reading
January 26, 2012 – Finished Reading
January 29, 2012 – Shelved as: kat-s-book-reviews
January 29, 2012 – Shelved as: oppressive-dystopian-regime
January 29, 2012 – Shelved as: to-ya-or-not-to-ya

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Tatiana Is there some juicy reason behind this "do not read"?


Tatiana OK, I'll seek out some more details. Guess I slept through all the drama.


Kat Kennedy I did too, Tatiana. I just caught her tweets referring to Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ as a hellhole and I thought it was ironic since I was going to buy this book and the only reason I'd even heard about it was Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ.


message 4: by Lucy (last edited Jan 03, 2012 05:17AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lucy I slept through it too. Here's some of the important stuff? I always sleep through everything.

http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/...

http://www.goodreads.com/user_status/...



http://www.goodreads.com/author_blog_...


message 5: by Tatiana (last edited Jan 03, 2012 05:25AM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Tatiana Thanks, Lucy.

The review that started it all had a completely valid point to make. It doesn't reflect well on every author involved to have chosen that particular one to stir the trouble around.

And this Dan person is determined to have a bad rep even before his debut is out?


Kat Kennedy I appreciate his eventual apology though.


Lucy You're welcome. Glad my cheat sheet went to some use.

Tatiana wrote:The review that started it all had a completely valid point to make. It doesn't reflect well on every author involved to have chosen that particular one to stir the trouble around..."

I know and the sad part is the stuff Kira was concerned about is just getting overwhelmed with bullshit. Cross gets congratulated for acting like an adult in the face of criticism when the relevant thing was why she chose to portray a feminist that way. I'm glad she took a different path than Dan and I certainly respect her actions a thousand fold more than his, but all of this just brushed aside the original complaint.

Personally, I'll never know if Dan's book was any good. I'd rather stick a fifty dollar bill in a blender than support his career.


Tatiana Lucy wrote: "Personally, I'll never know if Dan's book was any good."

Same here. I didn't know his name before, but now I do and thanks, but no thanks, Mr.


Kat Kennedy I know. It completely cracked me up!


Kat Kennedy Think after she messaged me for the eight time, I finally believed her. I don't have it in me to stay mad. I don't think anyone who can "take the piss" (learn that one for when you come to Australia) out of themselves like that on Youtube would take themselves too seriously when it comes to reviewers.


Kat Kennedy Well I didn't want another kerfuffle! Remember the last time I used Australian vernacular around you?


message 12: by Shan (new)

Shan Shar Do you mean she no longer believes Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ is worse than 4Chan? Or that she was simply completely ignorant of what she was comparing Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ to?


message 13: by Kat Kennedy (last edited Jan 06, 2012 03:42AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Kat Kennedy You can message her if you want her to explain, Shan.

This is the comment she left on my blog:

"When we responded to Dan, we had no idea about the Tempest review, and actually I had no idea what was going on until I had a bunch of less-than-savory emails and replies to a blog I wrote about a year ago: http://www.goodreads.com/author_blog_... I deleted most of them because I saw the discussion taking an ugly turn and I didn't want to turn what was meant to be an inspirational post into something ugly, which is where it was headed. I think my comment about Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ and 4chan was taken out of context. It had NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS REVIEW. I have never participated in a comment thread on a negative review, directly or indirectly or passive-aggressively.

I kept mostly silent for the past few days because I thought anything I said would just make matters worse, but given what I'm seeing here, maybe speaking up wouldn't hurt. If you saw my tweet and took offense, my intention was NOT to take part in the ongoing drama. I am cool with people disliking me because of, I dunno, my haircut or my last name, or flat out hating my book. But please don't think I hate reviewers, readers, or people who use this site. I love the crap out of readers. I spend most of every day tweeting, facebooking, blogging, answering questions and interacting with readers and my life would be heather gray without them."


Here's her official statement for it:

"Hi guys,

Yes, I clearly made the comment that you are linking to here on twitter. I thought a friend was talking about a negative review and I was commiserating (apparently I am the only one who didn't delete her tweets, as the rest of the discussion is gone). For authors, reading their own negative reviews or the negative comments on their person from people who have never met them IS worse than scrolling through 4chan. If I had to choose between 8 hours of scrolling through 4chan or 8 hours of scrolling through people saying things that are detrimental to me, I'd choose 4chan. I think most people probably would, but I can only speak for myself here. I have absolutely read things about authors and books that make 4chan look like a hallmark card, signed with a pink gel pen and dotted with hearts. Does this mean I think readers should be censored or nicer or more tactful? No. I stand by what I said in this blog. I'm glad my book has reviews, good, bad, indifferent, and I don't think there should be guidelines. I think GR is a place for reviewers and readers to do their thing. But I also stand by my tweet--for an author it is often quite damaging to seek out. It doesn't take away from the fact that I love readers. I love every email I get from them and I love their questions and discussions, and I love that this place exists. But I stay far, far away from its dark corners. Okay, just wanted to say my part. Carry on! "


I totally understand if people are angry over it still. Hurt and disappointment doesn't go away in a flash.

I just guess, at the end of the day, I don't really care anymore. She took the time to personally message me and apologize profusely over about eight messages. Massive author egos, in my experience, don't do that. So I guess I'm choosing to believe she was in earnest.

That or she is a fabulous actor/manipulator and has tricked both myself and Hannah Moskowitz, in which case, she still deserves kudos because that's pretty badass.


message 14: by Lucy (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lucy Good luck with your reading, Kat


Giselle Ooh I'm so out of the loop. I didn't know that was YOUR Blog Kat! Well - you rock!


Giselle And that vlog was brilliant! *claps*


message 17: by Experiment BL626 (new)

Experiment BL626 OMG, that's vlog is hilarious!

Love this
Lauren: "Your face is stilted."
and this
Lauren: "and people commented and somebody said that I had whale arms."
Hannah: "Whales don't even have arms."
Lauren: "Huh."
That funny shit needs to be written in a book somehow someway.


Steph Sinclair Yes, I couldn't stay mad either. She's really sweet.


message 19: by Kenya (new) - rated it 1 star

Kenya Wright That youtube video of hers on goodreads is freakin hilarious!!!


message 20: by Jamie (new)

Jamie So good!


message 21: by Kate (new) - rated it 4 stars

Kate Copeseeley Why don't more authors do hilarious vlogs?
Also, I really liked this book, except for one tiny part that really had only a minor part in the story. Won't spoil it, though. I bet when you get to it, you'll know what I mean.


message 22: by Reut (new) - rated it 4 stars

Reut Glad you're giving this a second chance! I personally haven't read Wither but I will be soon because I got a review copy of Fever. Happy reading!


Nafiza I was not too keen on the book but I'm totally curious to see if your thoughts will match up with mine. I mean, it's not too horrible but I guess it was my fault for going into it right after I ended Handmaid's Tale. :\


Shelby I agree with Nafiza on this...Wither definitely wasn't my cup of tea. If anything, I felt like it was a cheap imitation of The Handmaid's Tale.


Steph Sinclair I haven't read The Handmaid's Tale yet either. I'm hearing a lot about it, so maybe I should get to it soon.


I am Bastet Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ lists DeStefano's birthday as 1984. I don't think she is a teenager. Unless she lied about the 1984 because that is a cool birth year for a dystopia writer.


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Lissa I tried to read The Handmaid's Tale a few times but I wasn't in the right mindset (I was doing a literature degree and something heavy like that was not appreciated in my leisure time). I do want to tackle it again, especially after all these YA dystopians have come out.


message 28: by Mir (new) - rated it 1 star

Mir I'm curious why there is so much emphasis on LD being "too young". Her bio says she is 28. I don't think that is particularly young to be published, especially in YA.


Meredith Holley I wrote: "Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ lists DeStefano's birthday as 1984. I don't think she is a teenager. Unless she lied about the 1984 because that is a cool birth year for a dystopia writer."

Miriam wrote: "I'm curious why there is so much emphasis on LD being "too young". Her bio says she is 28. I don't think that is particularly young to be published, especially in YA."

Yeah, I was just going to say this. I can see why a person would think she was a teenager, though.

I love Raise the Red Lantern.


message 30: by Mir (new) - rated it 1 star

Mir She does look like a teen in her photo.


Kat Kennedy This is almost as embarrassing as that time I thought J.F. Lewis was a woman and mentioned it repeatedly. I thought I'd read somewhere that she was still a teenager. Crazy. Now I'm wondering if the note she sent me (cute anime girl paper) was her being ironic or some kind of meta humor, or her just fucking with my mind...


Meredith Holley Kat wrote: "This is almost as embarrassing as that time I thought J.F. Lewis was a woman and mentioned it repeatedly. I thought I'd read somewhere that she was still a teenager. Crazy. Now I'm wondering if ..."

I think she's just like that.


message 33: by Mir (new) - rated it 1 star

Mir Maybe she's trying to stay in touch with her demographic? Cutesy anime things seem to be in right now, at least judging by the kids I see at the bus stop.


message 34: by Stephanie (new) - added it

Stephanie (Stepping Out Of The Page) I thought she was like... nineteen. Whoops.


Kat Kennedy Thanks Archer! At least I'm not the only one.

Sparrow - don't shatter my illusions! I'm concocting an elaborate conspiracy in my head in which DeStefano somehow knew I was misinformed and carefully cultivated this information to purposely trip me up.

There's no place for making sense here!


Meredith Holley Kat wrote: "Thanks Archer! At least I'm not the only one.

Sparrow - don't shatter my illusions! I'm concocting an elaborate conspiracy in my head in which DeStefano somehow knew I was misinformed and carefu..."


haha! I also hear that she buys young girls, marries them and feeds them nothing but gross-sounding candies all day long.


Kat Kennedy Sparrow - really?! *Writes that down, forgets where I put it, then remembers it incorrectly*

I heard she can juggle encyclopedias while burping the national anthem.


message 38: by Meredith (last edited Jan 29, 2012 09:49AM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Meredith Holley Kat wrote: "Sparrow - really?! *Writes that down, forgets where I put it, then remembers it incorrectly*

I heard she can juggle encyclopedias while burping the national anthem."


WHAT? I heard she makes her slave girls post all her pictures of small animals AND do all her burping for her! We need to get some kittens and puppies and small disabled children to do some research about this for us.


Steph Sinclair Kat wrote: "This is almost as embarrassing as that time I thought J.F. Lewis was a woman and mentioned it repeatedly. I thought I'd read somewhere that she was still a teenager. Crazy. Now I'm wondering if ..."

That was the cutest stationary I've ever seen and it made a lovely bookmarker. :D
And now I have just realized that I did not capitalize the "S" in her last name. Off to edit my Fever review once again.


Kat Kennedy To the dilapidated laboratory, Sparrow!


Kat Kennedy Also, Stephanie, oh my goodness! Check your facts before you review! I'm so ashamed of you! Imagine getting basic author information wrong in your review...

Sparrow - also, yes, Raise The Red Lantern rocked so hard!


Meredith Holley Did you see Red Sorghum? Yimou Zhang is one of my favorite favorite favorites! But, I can't figure out whether Yimou Zhang is the Americanization of his name or Zhang Yimou is! It is difficult to love someone and not know what his last name is!

Is it any more troubling to you that she wrote a 13-y-o begging for statutory rape and getting lecturey about breast feeding now that you know she's a grownup woman?


message 43: by Steph (last edited Jan 29, 2012 09:57AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Steph Sinclair Kat wrote: "Also, Stephanie, oh my goodness! Check your facts before you review! I'm so ashamed of you! Imagine getting basic author information wrong in your review...

Sparrow - also, yes, Raise The Red ..."


I know! What kind of reviewer am I? Nothing was as bad as someone telling me I spelled Sci-Fi wrong in my profile. O.O Talk about embarrassing! It was a tiny typo, but made me look like an idiot. LOL. I blame my "mommy brain".

Iz can spell, peoplez! I promisssseee!!


Kat Kennedy Archer - don't remind me of my fails. Honestly, whose side are you on?

Sparrow - that aspect didn't bother me, really because it was very similar to a personal situation of mine.


message 45: by Meredith (last edited Jan 29, 2012 10:05AM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Meredith Holley Ohh, interesting. Or, umm, troubling.


Kat Kennedy Both Sparrow, both!


Kat Kennedy That was the cutest stationary I've ever seen and it made a lovely bookmarker. :D

I just noticed this statement - you mean she sent you a love note on this stationary too! Damnit, I thought I was special! I thought we had a blossoming friendship. I even made her matching Kindred Spirit friendship bracelets.

Did she sign your book too? I was really hoping for an inscription of some sort as well. Something like this would have been nice, "You are a crazy, psycho hose beast. I had to send this to you to placate your insanity. I hope you're happy. I hope you're real happy. Damnit, where are my pills? See what you've reduced me to? Burn in hell, Kat Kennedy! Burn in hell! Your friend, Lauren DeStefano."

Alas it wasn't to be...


Steph Sinclair Kat wrote: "That was the cutest stationary I've ever seen and it made a lovely bookmarker. :D

I just noticed this statement - you mean she sent you a love note on this stationary too! Damnit, I thought I was..."


Hahaha! I've knitted her mittens and a matching hat. I cannot have her fingers freezing off while she has book three to write!

Yes, she signed mine too. I didn't even notice it until after I had started reading. She happened to write me an ego pumping note, "Stephanie, you are the coolest person ever! I die from overexposure to your awesomeness on GoodReads on a daily basis. Yours forever and ever and ever, Lauren <3."

True story, bro. XD


Kat Kennedy No way! Now I'm totally jealous. She just mentioned my kitty picture and said she hoped I liked her book. Crushed, I am. Absolutely crushed. Must write a internet meme inspired haiku to express my pain.

DeStefano, boo!
Y u no like me moar, eh?
I haz a sad now.


Kat Kennedy How did you know pelvic thrusting storm trooper always cheers me up?


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