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The Girls of Slender Means by Muriel Spark
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The Girls of Slender Means by Muriel Spark is the best of the three novels I have read by this author, the first two falling a bit flat.

We follow the lives, loves and dramas of a group of young girls residing in a house in London in 1945 � just after the end of WWII. This house was opened during WWI for women of “slender means� who needed to relocate to London to work. This group had the name “May of Tuck Club,� some reference to the person who created the place.

There is a second timeline involved involving a man called Nicholas Farringdon � and he does add a bit of interest to the story (he was also a frequent visitor to the May of Tuck Club in 1945. He loved Seline (who is described as some sort of beautiful, purring lolling thing), but Jane loves him too � you know, the usual story. There are other girls worth knowing such as Jane, who works for a publisher and was given the job of getting to know and influence author Farringdon, Nancy Riddle who was inflicted with a Midlands accent (I can say that because I am from the Midlands of the UK � it is often said “Silence is a better accent than a Midlands accent), there’s also a mad girl called Pauline Fox � and quite a few other young ladies.

The dynamics between the girls was what you’d expect � loves and romances, also arguments and a bit of bitching (about things like wallpaper). There were also some funny interchanges with the three old spinsters of the group � who have ‘stayed on� and ‘stayed single.� “Greggie� the bossiest one was an interesting sort.

The issue I have had with Spark’s previous (and this) work is the humour. Yes, it’s amusing but to me � not terribly hilarious. As I explained to my buddy readers, Jennifer, and Lisa � I find the old (60’s, 70’s) UK humour a bit corny by and large. This was written in 1963 (my birth year incidentally, in both normal time and spacetime), and I remember the classic comedies of the time. The “Carry on Movies� and the like � just a but light, lacking satire, darkness, and wickedness. The stuff makes me really laugh out loud � think Sedaris, Gervais, Larry David etc.

But what made this book for me, as compared to the previous two, was the drama. We have significant drama and it aint all pleasant. There was suspense and sadness. So, I liked that � and I am still thinking about the book � so it says something.

Oh, and there was also Seline, this was my mind’s eye of this beautiful woman. Often said to be ‘lolling� around or referring to one quote “Selina, furled like a long soft sash, in her chair, came to Nicholas in a gratuitous flow�



I know this is a picture of the stunning Joanna Lumley from the 1960s � but you get the picture? Why wouldn’t Nick Farringdon be besotted by her?

I noticed Spark made reference to the skinniness, stoutness or fatness of the girls � it seemed to be a running theme - maybe that was easy to talk about in the 1960s. I also believe the title has a triple meaning (but telling you my thoughts on that would be a spoiler � oh, and I might be wrong!).

Lisa’s review: /review/show...

Jennifer’s review: /review/show...


4 Stars
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Reading Progress

March 16, 2024 – Shelved
March 16, 2024 – Shelved as: to-read
June 13, 2024 – Started Reading
June 14, 2024 –
page 45
31.25%
June 17, 2024 –
55.0% "I'm not sure Muriel Spark and I are made for each other."
June 17, 2024 –
72.0%
June 18, 2024 – Finished Reading
June 20, 2024 – Shelved as: buddy-read
June 20, 2024 – Shelved as: historical-fiction

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message 1: by Antoinette (new) - added it

Antoinette Appears you liked this one more than her other 2!


message 2: by Esta (new)

Esta Lively review Mark, I enjoyed reading it! I too enjoy Gervais� humour, usually has me rolling on the floor laughing! Glad you found the suspense and drama captivating. 😊💫


message 3: by Rebecca (new)

Rebecca Great review Mark! 👌🏻💖


Mark  Porton Antoinette wrote: "Appears you liked this one more than her other 2!"

For sure Antoinette, I don't know if it's because I'm acquiring a taste for this author but because this one had a bit more drama - either way, I recommend this one :))


Mark  Porton Esta wrote: "Lively review Mark, I enjoyed reading it! I too enjoy Gervais� humour, usually has me rolling on the floor laughing! Glad you found the suspense and drama captivating. 😊💫"

Hahaha - I know, I took 2 of my daughters to see Gervais as Madison Square Garden (this is not normal - so it was a treat) and it was great, as is his work in The Office, Derek etc etc etc. But this was a good one from Muriel Spark - thanks for your kind comments again Esta 🤗🎈


Mark  Porton Rebecca wrote: "Great review Mark! 👌🏻💖"

Cheers Rebecca, thanks for your kind comments as always 🤗🎈


message 7: by Rowan (new)

Rowan MacDonald Definitely says something when you’re still thinking about a book after finishing. I’m glad you had better luck with this one compared to those other two by the author. Excellent, well-written review, Mark! ☺️


Violeta Ok, Spark and you? I think you should call it quits and get on with your books and life, Mark :D
Some authors and readers are just not made for eah other - but you tried...oh, how you tried...
Despite your (generous) 4 stars, I have the sense that the best part about this book was that it reminded you "stunning Joanna Lumley" (whom I don't know and will definitely investigate).
Also you must have had lots of fun looking for that gorgeous photo, so it was a read worth your time :))
Curious to see what Jennifer and Lisa thought of it.
Move on, friend! ;-)


Ilse On humour & Joanna Lumley - you made me wonder if 'Absolutely Fabulous' resonated with you, Mark? On Mark & Spark, it was a joy to revisit the house of the girls through your eyes - this novel also resonated more with me than 'The prime of Miss Jean Brodie' - the crafty and terse composition, the writing, the drama. Excellent review!


message 10: by Laysee (new)

Laysee Mark, finally a Spark book that lit a spark for you. Now you've made me curious about the third meaning of the title. Until I read your review, I thought only of very slim-looking girls. :-)


message 11: by Antoinette (new) - added it

Antoinette Glad this one was more to your liking. I have this one sitting on my shelves, and am looking forward to continuing my Spark journey. I’m with Violeta, time for you to move on!!! Hahaha. Too many books out there. What I love after reading her books is the fact that they make me reflect on human foibles and her motive for writing these stories. Great review- I know Whipple or Taylor will be more to your liking!!


message 12: by Diane (new) - added it

Diane Barnes I agree with Violeta, you and Sparks are just not on the same wavelength. Your mention of Sedaris reminds me I have tickets to see him in October. I love that guy and always leave his readings (this is my third) with a sore stomach from laughing.


message 13: by Kimber (new)

Kimber Silver You and I enjoy the same type of humor, Mark. : ) I'm pleased this book was a better fit than the first two you tried. Another excellent review!


message 14: by Barbara (new)

Barbara Muriel Spark is an author I keep meaning to read. I think i will begin with this one. Your reasons for preferring this one seem right on, Mark.


Mark  Porton Rowan wrote: "Definitely says something when you’re still thinking about a book after finishing. I’m glad you had better luck with this one compared to those other two by the author. Excellent, well-written revi..."

Thanks again for your usual kind comments Rowan :))


Mark  Porton Violeta wrote: "Ok, Spark and you? I think you should call it quits and get on with your books and life, Mark :D
Some authors and readers are just not made for eah other - but you tried...oh, how you tried...
De..."


4-stars Violeta??? That was a genuine rating, but probably more like 3.5. I'm not sure I'll give up just yet, but I will take a break - I told Muriel "it's me, not her".

I just re-read your review and loved it.

Oh you must look into Joanna Lumley, former model back in the day, and became an actor. She now does a travel show - I love her, she is such a good host, she laughs and cries with the people she meets in other places. A top shelf lady.

Her most famous contemporary work is in a successful, and wickedly funny, comedy series called Absolutely Fabulous - with Jennifer Saunders. Lumley plays the permanently drunk, incoherent and massively bitchy, Patsy.



I love your comment about my generosity put in brackets - hahahahaha!!!! Thanks for (helping) me on my Sparks journey Violeta :))


Mark  Porton Ilse wrote: "On humour & Joanna Lumley - you made me wonder if 'Absolutely Fabulous' resonated with you, Mark? On Mark & Spark, it was a joy to revisit the house of the girls through your eyes - this novel also..."

Oh I just finished replying to Violeta above and now I see you've mentioned Absolutely Fabulous, Ilse. Yes, I think it's a good show, made me laugh and the two main characters are total bitches - hahahaha. Do/did, you watch and enjoy the show?

It seems we both felt similarly about this one, I did like the extra drama which elevated it above my previous Spark reads. Thanks for chipping in Ilse :))


Mark  Porton Laysee wrote: "Mark, finally a Spark book that lit a spark for you. Now you've made me curious about the third meaning of the title. Until I read your review, I thought only of very slim-looking girls. :-)"

Because I was running a bit ahead of my Buddy Readers, Laysee - I haven't seen their responses to my "The Three Meanings of Slender Theory, personally I think the theory is pure genius, but they might laugh me out of court, and think I'm talking rubbish!! Thanks again Laysee :))


Mark  Porton Antoinette wrote: "Glad this one was more to your liking. I have this one sitting on my shelves, and am looking forward to continuing my Spark journey. I’m with Violeta, time for you to move on!!! Hahaha. Too many bo..."

Yes, I am looking forward to Whipple and Taylor, Antoinette - where shall I start?? It was funny Violeta telling me to move on, it made me laugh - not only to move on book-wise, but also with my life!! Bahahaha I think V is a bit over the whole Spark, Mark thing. But as you know I like doing some things 'to death', so I may just continue - one day, just out of spite!! 😄😮


message 20: by Ilse (new) - rated it 4 stars

Ilse Mark wrote: "Oh I just finished replying to Violeta above and now I see you've mentioned Absolutely Fabulous, Ilse. Yes, I think it's a good show, made me laugh and the two main characters are total bitches - hahahaha. Do/did, you watch and enjoy the show?
Mark, thank you for providing us with that gorgeous pic of Patsy and Edina in your reply to Violeta :) I've only watched a couple of episodes, hoping my children would like it too, so that we had something to watch together, but again was the only one rolling with laughter (and again remembering a scene in which Edina is so drunk she drops out of the car like a wet carpet :). Now you reminded me of the show, I might just watch it without them - not the first time they'll think I have become mad because they hear me burst with laughter ;)


Violeta Mark, Ilse, thanks for putting Patsy and Edina on my radar! I have a feeling they’re my kind of funny ladies. While looking for the show I noticed there’s a 2016 movie too. I guess it won’t be as good an experience as the original but if I don’t find it streaming anywhere I’ll settle for that.


Mark  Porton Violeta wrote: "Mark, Ilse, thanks for putting Patsy and Edina on my radar! I have a feeling they’re my kind of funny ladies. While looking for the show I noticed there’s a 2016 movie too. I guess it won’t be as g..."<

Ilse, I'm with you - maybe this is more for our generation. I love this show, Eddie and Patsy treat Eddie's daughter appallingly. It's wonderful. Violeta - this is a snippet of Patsy's best bits. (GR wouldn't let me post the link!!!) I agree with your comment "I have a feeling they're my kind of funny ladies" - Ilse loves it, I reckon you will too. They are a horrible duo - poor Saffy.



message 23: by Candi (new) - added it

Candi Humor has so many different flavors, and our favorite ones are so personal, aren't they?! Gosh, I'd like to be "lolling around" like Seline :D Your imagining of her looks doesn't hurt either :D I'll read Spark and let you know if we agree on her or not, Markus. Great review!


message 24: by Bianca (Away) (new)

Bianca (Away) Another exceptional review, Mark. I hope her books come back in fashion and that there'll be new audiobooks so I'm more likely to try one of her books.


Nancy (playing catch-up) I love it when I still think about a story after I’ve finished it. Definitely the sign of a good book. 😊


message 26: by Lisa (new) - added it

Lisa Okay, my friend. I've posted a review of sorts for this one. As you know, it wasn't a love fest for me. I am glad you found enough to love in Chapter 8 to consider continuing with reading Spark again some day. I am enjoying the Lumley photos.

I am curious. What is lingering for you?


Mark  Porton Lisa wrote: "Okay, my friend. I've posted a review of sorts for this one. As you know, it wasn't a love fest for me. I am glad you found enough to love in Chapter 8 to consider continuing with reading Spark aga..."

Good Q Lisa, without giving anything away for those who haven't read this - the 3 things that linger are 1)The episode in the crowd towards the end 2) The catastrophe towards the end and 3) The Dad, Nick conversation at the funeral.


Jennifer Welsh Funny, Mark, this was my least favorite of the ones I’ve read, and yet it was fun getting your perspective throughout. My faves were Loitering with Intent, especially since it reflected so much of the writer’s struggle, and A Far Cry from Kensington, because the narrator was so likable. Terrific review :)


message 29: by Charles (new)

Charles Joanna Lumley rocks! ❤️

Glad this title was more of a hit than the previous ones, Mark. Duly noted!


message 30: by Fionnuala (new) - added it

Fionnuala I love that you are still thinking about this book, Mark. It left me very thoughtful too.


Mark  Porton Jennifer wrote: "Funny, Mark, this was my least favorite of the ones I’ve read, and yet it was fun getting your perspective throughout. My faves were Loitering with Intent, especially since it reflected so much of ..."

Goes to show we al have different tastes, reading is by definition a very personal experience isn't it? I will read another of Spark's - in time. Was a pleasure buddy reading this with you and Lisa, Jennifer!!


Mark  Porton Charles wrote: "Joanna Lumley rocks! ❤️

Glad this title was more of a hit than the previous ones, Mark. Duly noted!"


Doesn't she Charles, I've been in love with Joanna Lumley ever since she played "Purdey" in the New Avengers!! I was in my mid-teens back then, so my hormones were racing my friend (too much information, I know) 🤣



But, I really became to admire her heaps more when I watched her Travel Documentaries, have you seen them. She is such a curious, classy and compassionate person - I've seen her cry a few times when talking to locals in other countries.



I'll shut up now - thanks for checking in Charles :))


Mark  Porton Fionnuala wrote: "I love that you are still thinking about this book, Mark. It left me very thoughtful too."

I just read your review and loved it Fi - you nailed it. Wasn't the focus on food and weight (of the girls) interesting? Weight/figure even carried through right to the end - which was very dramatic to say the least. Thanks so much for stopping by :))


Margaret M - (having a challenging time and on GR as much as I can) Fabulous review Mark. Great reviews like this remind me I need to pop in more often


message 35: by Charles (new)

Charles Mark wrote: "But, I really became to admire her heaps more when I watched her Travel Documentaries, have you seen them. She is such a curious, classy and compassionate person..."

I didn't know she had travel documentaries out there. I never watch much of anything, but who knows. Thanks for this. :)


message 36: by Terry (new) - added it

Terry This book is definitely on my radar to read. But, as for all time great models, I submit to you Jean Shrimpton in the 1960s.


Mark  Porton Terry wrote: "This book is definitely on my radar to read. But, as for all time great models, I submit to you Jean Shrimpton in the 1960s."

Alright Terry, I think its a very close call - but I'm am finding it hard to argue with you. Ahhhhh - the wonderful 1960's.




Mark  Porton Margaret M - (on holiday wrote: "Fabulous review Mark. Great reviews like this remind me I need to pop in more often"

But you're travelling the world Margaret!!! Great to see you anyway and thanks again for your generous comments :))


message 39: by Kevin (new)

Kevin Ansbro I'm aligned with your comedy taste, Mark. A great review, mate!


Mark  Porton Kevin wrote: "I'm aligned with your comedy taste, Mark. A great review, mate!"

Yes, I thought so Kevin!! Thanks for your generous comments again mate :))


Jennifer Welsh Mark wrote: "Jennifer wrote: "Funny, Mark, this was my least favorite of the ones I’ve read, and yet it was fun getting your perspective throughout. My faves were Loitering with Intent, especially since it refl..."

It is, indeed. I was a little jealous when the second part redeemed itself for you. I read that others had that same experience. I tend to prefer her novellas that are told from the first person POV. But it was very fun reading this with both of you :D


Mark  Porton Jennifer wrote: "Mark wrote: "Jennifer wrote: "Funny, Mark, this was my least favorite of the ones I’ve read, and yet it was fun getting your perspective throughout. My faves were Loitering with Intent, especially ..."

Thanks so much Jennifer, and thanks for joining in for our Oct 1st BR!! 😄


Jennifer Welsh Thanks for inviting me! I’m looking forward to discussing in a small group 🥰


Mark  Porton The group is growing Jennifer 😳


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