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Paladin's Faith (The Saint of Steel, #4)
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We're back to the road trip, everyone. While I think Paladin's Faith corrected some of the mistakes of the series' second Paladin's Strength by making the party much smaller and consequently actually allowing us to learn something about them - except I did not actually enjoy the dynamic of the quartet very much - I am not sure it managed to improve over that second instalment. And certainly it lost most of the momentum and humour of the third.
Paladin's Faith starts out as something more akin to a spy story, where our main goal should be to save an artificer from a merchant-spy organisation at a court of nobility. I actually enjoyed this idea - the paladins and our lead Shane are way out of their depth once it comes only to socialising, intrigue, information and bitching around, and I think placing Wren and Shane in their respective roles as 'small noble' and 'brooding bodyguard' was a very interesting premise. Marguerite, the spy we know from (still the best of the series, now very very closely followed by part three) Paladin's Grace, is the only one truly in her element there. We even had the seeds for interesting moral and ethical questions, and something that could have become a very interesting point of contestion between the two romantic leads, the incredibly moral and honest paladin Shane and the significantly more pragmatically-moral spy Marguerite. Wren and Davith's characters, too, as well as others in the Court of Smoke (Lady Silver? Fennel? Even that horribly lecherous Lord?) could have made for an excellent and shillering cast to dive into questions of ethics and morals in a world both run by capitalist merchant's guilds as well as gods and their black/white morality paladins. The potential. Gold.
Except, what do we do? About halfway through we abandon the Court Arc of the story, move to the Quartet on a Hike arc (I really disliked that one and its dynamic, I admit), then move from the Demon Cult to the Demon Slayer Arc (pun intended), and close the story. What I mean to say by using the otherwise more anime-adjacent term of an "arc" to describe the coherent overarching plot of one part of the story, is to say that I believe that the narrative jumps around too much in a way that makes the novel appear somewhat like several stories glued together. That the artificer who was a central goal of the first arc just suddenly disappeared did not even feel out of character for the narrative when it happened; the fact that at the very end, some dialogue tries to stick the pieces of several arcs together to make it seem as if it was 'all coming together' only served to give me the impression that Kingfisher also knew it was too disjointed to feel like one whole.
Concerning the relationships, I have to admit that I perhaps like Marguerite and Shane the least. Unlike actually all prior pairings, they had the amazing potential of an actual conflict of ethics and were, unlike other couples, not based primarily on physical attraction. They are opposites in character that would be extremely interesting to dive into. Except due to the nature of the story, this is implied more than developed, so that I personally feel that their romance was left empty. In fact, I ended the novel realising - to my own dismay - that I even bought the entire Istvhan/Clara romance better, purely because there we knew it was based on the whole 'they're so strong and big and are the only one who could take me in a fight (or the sheets)'. Shane/Marguerite have the makings of character, and then too little introspection into their own attraction or too little time to develop the ethical questions the novel could have been doing instead of introducing world-lore-focused arcs.
Indeed, while the Quartet on a Hike arc essentially serves to expand the map of the story only, the two Demon Slayer arcs definitely provide interesting snippets of lore about demons and gods, as well as how paladins work. I enjoyed that, and will remain curious to find out more about the world. Do I think this should have been a separate book, and this one remain at the Court? Definitely. I believe Shane is the perfect lead for the Demon Slayer plot, and the morals and honesty we saw developed match it perfectly; but if we split this book into two parts, it would have worked better. I think this is what the initial goal of Paladin's Faith was; but the pretended interrelations and the consequent forgetting of plot elements just made each part feel incomplete, and the lack of proper debates about ethics and a resolution between the two leads similarly left me with only the feeling of potential, rather than satisfaction.
Addendum 1: I just remembered, a whole novel later and we were given no follow-up to the dramatic and amazing reveal Piper did at the end of Paladin's Hope. What was it? Why are we not allowed to know? Will it actually come back or do I have to wait another 7 novels until it is Galen's turn again to find out? If there is one issue I have with the series, then it is that no novel seems to have any real consequences for the following ones except minor points like Istvhan being 'up north' now. Little hope for the Judith reveal as well now, until we get to her own instalment at least.
Addendum 2: In this sense, I am also not entirely certain why we did the Demon Arcs now rather than continue on to explore the Ancients from book three. With Shane as the lead, we naturally need the Demon arc, but then we would not have needed the Court arc, or could have combined that one with more about the Ancients and made this instalment into Wren's story (girl definitely goes Through It here anyway, she'd have deserved this too) rather than Shane's, and have him be the protagonist of book 5 focused on the two Demon Arcs.
Addendum 3: @Hirondelle, in case you read this: please let me know what the 'bit of lore' is that you mentioned being introduced at the start of Paladin's Grace that returned now, I cannot for the life of me figure it out.
Addendum 4: [re-edited after deliberation] At this point in the series, I still think the ranking goes 1<3<4<2. I am all the more appreciating the exciting action of instalment three now, especially since Paladin's Faith failed to fully grip me and 'force me' to continue reading, even when I finished on a dramatic cliffhanger chapter. Book four is evidently superior to book two though, particularly in terms of lore and the central question of the dead god as well as a better focus on introduxing characters properly.
Paladin's Faith starts out as something more akin to a spy story, where our main goal should be to save an artificer from a merchant-spy organisation at a court of nobility. I actually enjoyed this idea - the paladins and our lead Shane are way out of their depth once it comes only to socialising, intrigue, information and bitching around, and I think placing Wren and Shane in their respective roles as 'small noble' and 'brooding bodyguard' was a very interesting premise. Marguerite, the spy we know from (still the best of the series, now very very closely followed by part three) Paladin's Grace, is the only one truly in her element there. We even had the seeds for interesting moral and ethical questions, and something that could have become a very interesting point of contestion between the two romantic leads, the incredibly moral and honest paladin Shane and the significantly more pragmatically-moral spy Marguerite. Wren and Davith's characters, too, as well as others in the Court of Smoke (Lady Silver? Fennel? Even that horribly lecherous Lord?) could have made for an excellent and shillering cast to dive into questions of ethics and morals in a world both run by capitalist merchant's guilds as well as gods and their black/white morality paladins. The potential. Gold.
Except, what do we do? About halfway through we abandon the Court Arc of the story, move to the Quartet on a Hike arc (I really disliked that one and its dynamic, I admit), then move from the Demon Cult to the Demon Slayer Arc (pun intended), and close the story. What I mean to say by using the otherwise more anime-adjacent term of an "arc" to describe the coherent overarching plot of one part of the story, is to say that I believe that the narrative jumps around too much in a way that makes the novel appear somewhat like several stories glued together. That the artificer who was a central goal of the first arc just suddenly disappeared did not even feel out of character for the narrative when it happened; the fact that at the very end, some dialogue tries to stick the pieces of several arcs together to make it seem as if it was 'all coming together' only served to give me the impression that Kingfisher also knew it was too disjointed to feel like one whole.
Concerning the relationships, I have to admit that I perhaps like Marguerite and Shane the least. Unlike actually all prior pairings, they had the amazing potential of an actual conflict of ethics and were, unlike other couples, not based primarily on physical attraction. They are opposites in character that would be extremely interesting to dive into. Except due to the nature of the story, this is implied more than developed, so that I personally feel that their romance was left empty. In fact, I ended the novel realising - to my own dismay - that I even bought the entire Istvhan/Clara romance better, purely because there we knew it was based on the whole 'they're so strong and big and are the only one who could take me in a fight (or the sheets)'. Shane/Marguerite have the makings of character, and then too little introspection into their own attraction or too little time to develop the ethical questions the novel could have been doing instead of introducing world-lore-focused arcs.
Indeed, while the Quartet on a Hike arc essentially serves to expand the map of the story only, the two Demon Slayer arcs definitely provide interesting snippets of lore about demons and gods, as well as how paladins work. I enjoyed that, and will remain curious to find out more about the world. Do I think this should have been a separate book, and this one remain at the Court? Definitely. I believe Shane is the perfect lead for the Demon Slayer plot, and the morals and honesty we saw developed match it perfectly; but if we split this book into two parts, it would have worked better. I think this is what the initial goal of Paladin's Faith was; but the pretended interrelations and the consequent forgetting of plot elements just made each part feel incomplete, and the lack of proper debates about ethics and a resolution between the two leads similarly left me with only the feeling of potential, rather than satisfaction.
Addendum 1: I just remembered, a whole novel later and we were given no follow-up to the dramatic and amazing reveal Piper did at the end of Paladin's Hope. What was it? Why are we not allowed to know? Will it actually come back or do I have to wait another 7 novels until it is Galen's turn again to find out? If there is one issue I have with the series, then it is that no novel seems to have any real consequences for the following ones except minor points like Istvhan being 'up north' now. Little hope for the Judith reveal as well now, until we get to her own instalment at least.
Addendum 2: In this sense, I am also not entirely certain why we did the Demon Arcs now rather than continue on to explore the Ancients from book three. With Shane as the lead, we naturally need the Demon arc, but then we would not have needed the Court arc, or could have combined that one with more about the Ancients and made this instalment into Wren's story (girl definitely goes Through It here anyway, she'd have deserved this too) rather than Shane's, and have him be the protagonist of book 5 focused on the two Demon Arcs.
Addendum 3: @Hirondelle, in case you read this: please let me know what the 'bit of lore' is that you mentioned being introduced at the start of Paladin's Grace that returned now, I cannot for the life of me figure it out.
Addendum 4: [re-edited after deliberation] At this point in the series, I still think the ranking goes 1<3<4<2. I am all the more appreciating the exciting action of instalment three now, especially since Paladin's Faith failed to fully grip me and 'force me' to continue reading, even when I finished on a dramatic cliffhanger chapter. Book four is evidently superior to book two though, particularly in terms of lore and the central question of the dead god as well as a better focus on introduxing characters properly.
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Judith and "Paladin's Wisdom" - I think you were absolutely spot-on with the title, and just in case it isn't announced as such yet, I think this is the only title for Judith's book I shall accept. Genius. Concerning the lore I agree though, and I think this is also what made me genuinely disappointed (and thus rate the book lower, in the end) that we allude to Piper's realisation twice, tell two characters about it, but we as readers do not get the content of this information. Even more so because I personally think lore-wise (and I am a big fan of lore, this is what fantasy is all about at its core) what I dubbed the Demon Arcs were extremely enjoyable. I am not familiar with any Terry Pratchett (yet), so the information was quite new to me, and I really enjoyed both knowing about it, the genuinely emotional descriptions of the feeling itself, and also Wisdom as a character.
As to Wren... I think you are right and also genuinely hope, very dearly, that it will not be. He is funny, I like him, but I think I'd prefer he were the one for Judith (or at least we'd discover why he had this reaction when she appeared) and Wren gets someone different who appreciates her from the very start. Also because I think their somewhat childish feud does not need a continuation, and it would be nice to have someone completely new introduced.

About Wren, we will see! I confess I want more of him and I want to see him grovel (and I want to see Wren basically just get anything she wants, or needs, and be happy). He has very very good lines, and I am really shallow that way. His lines were way too good for the author to waste him and get something new, unless he is saved for Judith, obviously and can drop one liners for 2 or 3 more books. Another book for Marcus (no opinion) and his wife?
I want more of the bishop also, hopefully. No romance, she seems perfectly happy doing her job and it's so much fun to see her doing her job.

I agree with your opinion about Davith, he was genuinely well-written and funny, and I really enjoyed him as a character. Maybe this is more a personal pet-peeve, but the "Quartet on Hike" arc unfortunately had the most childishly petty character dynamic I could imagine, so as much as I liked each character in their own right, everyone except Marguerite really lost points there for me.
Personally, I found it really intriguing that Davith nearly jumped out of his seat too when Judith walked in, and it was only to his muttered (hilarious) one-liners that we had a description of her laughing (in a discreet, Judith way). This is why I thought that maybe he'll be coming back for her book. Or maybe they even met before? I don't know, but am very curious to find out.
Yes to the bishop! I hope we get much more of her, she is such an incredibly funny, strong and effortlessly cool character - and without romance too, I agree.

Good point about Davith seeing Judith - I missed or did not remember that. I still think he owes Wren a good grovel, a proper one. The author will not waste him, I hope!
And yeah, more bishop please, but no romance for her, please, just let her continue being awesome and happy and efficient.
The "bit of lore" I meant, was probably the wrong expression, I meant that they finally worry about the death of their god, and we get to see more of what demon possession is like and eventually how a demon might turn into a god! This book made me reread Terry Pratchett's Small Gods actually - I think she is a fan of Terry Pratchett for sure and it is seen in many small details (particularly her old ladies!). I do not think it works the same way as in that universe, but the theme of belief powering existence and so on, it was familiar.
Agree that they do not go there explicitly quite yet, and we will only get it on book 7 which I would bet will be about Judith and will be called Paladin's Wisdom. The author will stretch the plot for 3 more books for sure.
And Wren's, it will be with the snarky one, right? It has, and he has to change a lot for sure... At least it will be different.