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message 101: by Pink (last edited Oct 17, 2019 12:34PM) (new)

Pink | 5491 comments Antonomasia wrote: "Where would be the right place to post about documentaries and other factual programming on classic literature? There's a Film & TV adaptations folder, but it is exactly that."

I think the film and tv adaptations folder would be fine to post in, or else the general chit chat folder. You can start a thread for documentaries if you like, I'll be interested to see any recommendations.


message 102: by Katy, Quarterly Long Reads (new)

Katy (kathy_h) | 9470 comments Mod
Antonomasia wrote: "Where would be the right place to post about documentaries and other factual programming on classic literature? There's a Film & TV adaptations folder, but it is exactly that."

Go ahead with a new thread in that folder & call it documentaries. That should be the best place for the discussion.


message 103: by Antonomasia (new)

Antonomasia | 58 comments Thanks. Took a few days to get round to it, but now done: /topic/show/...


message 104: by Katy, Quarterly Long Reads (new)

Katy (kathy_h) | 9470 comments Mod
Antonomasia wrote: "Thanks. Took a few days to get round to it, but now done: /topic/show/..."

Excellent. Looking forward to the discussion


message 105: by Antonomasia (new)

Antonomasia | 58 comments Have you thought about some sort of list or event for titles that have been nominated the most times without winning? I suspect Flatland may be top of that because it appears in the polls so often, and looks set to be in yet another for this July. Perhaps the top 5 or so of these books - which seem to be of great ongoing interest to the most active members but less so to the wider consitutency of members voting - deserve some kind of recognition and shelving?


message 106: by Pink (new)

Pink | 5491 comments We tend to use buddy reads for books that consistently make polls but don't win. I'm not sure how a list or event for these titles would work, other than adding another section apart from group reads and buddy reads.


message 107: by Sabrina (new)

Sabrina  F (brithepisceanreader) | 6 comments Thank you so much for your welcoming and informative message! If I have any questions, should I come here to ask them?


message 108: by Katy, Quarterly Long Reads (new)

Katy (kathy_h) | 9470 comments Mod
Bri wrote: "Thank you so much for your welcoming and informative message! If I have any questions, should I come here to ask them?"

Here is our "Got a Question?" Thread. A great place to ask any question about the group: /topic/show/...


message 109: by Sabrina (new)

Sabrina  F (brithepisceanreader) | 6 comments thanks!


message 110: by Katy, Quarterly Long Reads (new)

Katy (kathy_h) | 9470 comments Mod
Bri wrote: "thanks!"

Any time.


message 111: by Victoria (last edited Dec 16, 2020 11:09AM) (new)

Victoria Foote-Blackman Hi, thank you for the explanation. Delighted to have found this site. I have ordered Gaskell's Cranford, as it is--from what I understand--one of the choices for January. But does this mean we should have finished reading the book by January 1st, or just by the last day of the month in question? Or some other scenario? How do people discuss the book if they are at different sections of the book, without revealing spoilers? (I know spoilers may not be considered an issue in serious reading, but still...) Thanks for any insight you can give me!


message 112: by Katy, Quarterly Long Reads (new)

Katy (kathy_h) | 9470 comments Mod
Victoria wrote: "Hi, thank you for the explanation. Delighted to have found this site. I have ordered Gaskell's Cranford, as it is from what I understand, one of the choices for January. But does this mean we shoul..."

We start reading and discussing on January 1st. So some people read it by then, and others read it during that month. For long reads, we read over three months.

We have two threads for each book that we read. One is a spoiler thread and the other is a non spoiler thread. It is best to be careful when reading the posts in the spoiler thread if you have not finished the book. Some people use spoiler tags, but others are using the app on their phone and those are not available to them.

Hope you enjoy the book.


message 113: by Lynn, New School Classics (new)

Lynn (lynnsreads) | 4939 comments Mod
Hello this is a continuation of an etiquette discussion from a nominations thread. Personally, I think polite is better. Since we are not seeing facial cues and hearing voice cues, I always try to interpret posts in the kindest manner possible.

To thank or not to thank.

I like thank you's. That is my simple answer. Discussion is open for those who would like to discuss it.


message 114: by Lynn, New School Classics (new)

Lynn (lynnsreads) | 4939 comments Mod
Oh I just thought of something else. When making up the lists of nominations,,,you may not believe this but sometimes I make a mistake LOL!! Hmmm The thank you's, if there is like one comprehensive list, is something I actually use to double check myself.


message 115: by Natalie (new)

Natalie (nsmiles29) | 842 comments I agree with Lynn! Polite is always better. 😊 When I started participating in the group I saw that people said thank you so I started doing it too. I think it’s friendly and I appreciate it.


message 116: by Sara, Old School Classics (new)

Sara (phantomswife) | 9028 comments Mod
I cannot imagine a moderator being so rude to you over such a minor issue, Nike. Even if they objected, it could have been handled without that! Please continue to thank people in any threads I am monitoring. Like others, I find it uplifting to see people being polite and sharing their joys. I am so sorry you spent time hurting over this, because those people don't deserve you...so, just come spend the rest of your time with us. :o)


message 117: by J_BlueFlower (new)

J_BlueFlower (j_from_denmark) | 2183 comments “People are not voting for you, but rather a book. �

I personally do not write thankyou to people seconding, for exactly that reason. But I was considering stating to do it, when I read Nike's post: It matters to me that this group is one of the warm, troll-free, cozy corners of the Internet.


message 118: by Sara, Old School Classics (new)

Sara (phantomswife) | 9028 comments Mod
I never thank others for seconding either, but I take it as a nice part of a person's personality when they take the time to, and I never want to cancel out the nice things.


message 119: by Lynn, New School Classics (new)

Lynn (lynnsreads) | 4939 comments Mod
Haha!


message 120: by Michaela (new)

Michaela | 386 comments I seized the idea of thanking from other members, but if it´s too redundant, perhaps a good idea to give one thanks to all who seconded in the end.


message 121: by Andrew (new)

Andrew | 30 comments I mean, I personally find it abit cringy and annoying (I get that's its nice, but I doesn't seem particularly needed in some ways. we're all picking stuff, unless your choice is really, really bad it's sort of obvious they'll pick yours. They do it out if selfishness more than anything, *they* want to read it. Its not a favour to you), but honestly, who gives a fuck? it doesn't hurt really anyone. And certainly, even if people did have a problem, to respond in the way the moderator, of all people, who, by definition, moderates conversation, to behave so curtly and rudely, is simply outrageous. i think frankly they should consider their position here, if they find it so ardous they can only respond to members (in an open, public forum I need not remind you) like that.


message 122: by Luke (new)

Luke (korrick) I'll take the thank yous over the silent masses who pile drive the group votes towards group book discussions that they never participate in any day.


message 123: by Lynn, New School Classics (last edited Nov 14, 2021 02:19PM) (new)

Lynn (lynnsreads) | 4939 comments Mod
I also believe that if we as group members start second guessing too much any sort of post, that will kill group discussion and eventually kill the group. Again polite behavior is good. The point of a discussion group is discussion; obvious, but too many rules kill discussion.

As a moderator I thank all the monthly participants in the nominations threads. I in no way think it has anything to do with me. It's just a nice thing to do.


message 124: by Kathleen (new)

Kathleen | 5330 comments I thank people sometimes, in the same spirit that I say I'm sorry when something bad happens to someone: not that it's my fault but that I'm sad for them. When I say thank you, it's just sharing the happiness about a book we both want to read.

I can see the pro and con to the many thank yous in these threads, but I don't think we want to go down the road of judging whether someone's post is worthy or not--no matter what they say. Our moderators do take it to another thread when necessary, as was done here, which is very appropriate and considerate for all.

I'm sorry for Nike that she experienced rude treatment in the other group, and I'm grateful for this considerate group and the wise moderators that keep us moving in the right direction.


message 125: by Katy, Quarterly Long Reads (new)

Katy (kathy_h) | 9470 comments Mod
Politeness and kindness are always appropriate. Lynn said it for me here:

Lynn wrote: "...I always try to interpret posts in the kindest manner possible. ..."


message 126: by Wayne (new)

Wayne Jordaan | 126 comments Hi, quick question please. I am busy updating my BINGO Card and want to confirm where I would find the 2021 Bookshelf, in order to verify my reads. Thank you.


message 127: by Sara, Old School Classics (new)

Sara (phantomswife) | 9028 comments Mod
Wayne, click on "bookshelf" on the upper right hand menu under the group name. When the bookshelf comes up the books should be listed in chronological order by date read. If they are not, you can click on the "date started" button and it will sort them into that order. Hope this is helpful.


message 128: by Wayne (new)

Wayne Jordaan | 126 comments Sara wrote: "Wayne, click on "bookshelf" on the upper right hand menu under the group name. When the bookshelf comes up the books should be listed in chronological order by date read. If they are not, you can c..."

Thanks a lot Sara. I am sure it will help. Much appreciated


message 129: by Lee (new)

Lee (leex1f98a) | 17 comments Question: I am getting updates for every single thread on this group. Somewhere I clicked "notify me" on all posts, but I can't remember where that was. Where do I remove "notify me when anyone comments in this group"?

If I look up each individual thread/discussion in this group, I see I can remove by clicking "add to my Update Feed". But is there a simpler
way? I am getting dozens and dozens of updates about Bingos and things I don't care about!

Thank you!


message 130: by Sara, Old School Classics (new)

Sara (phantomswife) | 9028 comments Mod
Under your profile you will find a tab "get emails". If you click on this and scroll down you will see a section where each group you are in is listed. Next to the listing, you will have options regarding how you want to get notifications for that group.

Also, when you visit a thread (such as this one) the "You are following this discussion" automatically sets itself to "individual email". You will get an email if anyone then posts to the thread. If you do not click on that link in the email, you will not get any further notices from that thread. If you don't want the automatic setting, you can select edit and change to the choice you prefer.

Hope this helps.


message 131: by Soren (new)

Soren Pink wrote: "Hi Veronica, we've debated timescales in the past and after much discussion and voting we agreed on a cut off date of 1999. As we're a classic book group, we like to concentrate on books that quali..."



Since this reaction dates from 2015, wouldn't it be logic to move that breakline to 2009? (as in, we are almost 10 years further ;) )


message 132: by Sara, Old School Classics (new)

Sara (phantomswife) | 9028 comments Mod
The idea here is to encourage the reading of earlier works, Soren. You can always form a buddy read for books after 1999, there is no date restriction on buddy reads.


message 133: by Teri-K (new)

Teri-K | 916 comments I have a question about the nomination process. Is there any reason to second a book again once it has received a second already? Does it help somehow, or is it just a general sign of enthusiasm for that book?


message 134: by Greg (new)

Greg | 940 comments Teri-K wrote: "I have a question about the nomination process. Is there any reason to second a book again once it has received a second already? Does it help somehow, or is it just a general sign of enthusiasm fo..."

Teri-K, I think the books with the most number of seconds are the ones that go to the poll. One second is often not enough to get there.


message 135: by Teri-K (new)

Teri-K | 916 comments Greg wrote: "Teri-K wrote: "I have a question about the nomination process. Is there any reason to second a book again once it has received a second already? Does it help somehow, or is it just a general sign o..."

Oh, thanks! I'll go second my favorite, then, and help it out.


message 136: by Katy, Quarterly Long Reads (new)

Katy (kathy_h) | 9470 comments Mod
Yes, the seven books with the most seconds advance to the polls. In the case of ties more or fewer books go to the polls.


message 137: by Lynn, New School Classics (new)

Lynn (lynnsreads) | 4939 comments Mod
Soren wrote: "Pink wrote: "Hi Veronica, we've debated timescales in the past and after much discussion and voting we agreed on a cut off date of 1999. As we're a classic book group, we like to concentrate on boo..."

Time keeps moving on. The moderators of this Group have decided that in this group the definition of classic book will be 20 years old or older. Starting in 2025 the New School Book dates will be books first published from 1915 - 2005. Old School dates will be any book first published before 1915.


message 138: by Darren (new)

Darren (dazburns) | 2117 comments woo-hoo! 6 more years of New School!

(goes away to prepare short-list of possible nominations...)

:oD


message 139: by Katy, Quarterly Long Reads (new)

Katy (kathy_h) | 9470 comments Mod
Darren wrote: "woo-hoo! 6 more years of New School!..."

Glad to see you excited for this! We agonize over every change we make in the group.


message 140: by Shaina (new)

Shaina | 808 comments Yay! This is exciting news. Thank you, Mods.


message 141: by Terry (new)

Terry | 2255 comments Thanks, Moderators!


message 142: by J_BlueFlower (new)

J_BlueFlower (j_from_denmark) | 2183 comments Darren wrote: "woo-hoo! 6 more years of New School!

(goes away to prepare short-list of possible nominations...)

:oD"


Oh yes.

I started a tread for it here:
/topic/show/...

Anyone want to talk about books?


message 143: by Teri-K (new)

Teri-K | 916 comments Katy wrote: "Darren wrote: "woo-hoo! 6 more years of New School!..."

Glad to see you excited for this! We agonize over every change we make in the group."


For me this change doesn't mean much, as I prefer to read old-old books. but I appreciate that you're listening to the members but not making changes willy-nilly. This is a great group and the mods are a big part of why it's so great. So, thanks for your time and caring.


message 144: by Katy, Quarterly Long Reads (new)

Katy (kathy_h) | 9470 comments Mod
You are welcome.


message 145: by James (new)

James | 1 comments People reference previous comments on a thread but unless it is a very recent comment, it can be hard to follow the conversation. Is there something that either I can do or this group can do to help with this?


message 146: by Katy, Quarterly Long Reads (new)

Katy (kathy_h) | 9470 comments Mod
James wrote: "People reference previous comments on a thread but unless it is a very recent comment, it can be hard to follow the conversation. Is there something that either I can do or this group can do to hel..."

Good question, but as far as I know, this is a drawback on ŷ.


message 147: by Wobbley (new)

Wobbley | 2269 comments It is possible to include a link to a specific comment. For example, here is a link to the comment where James asks his question:

/topic/show/...

I got the link by hovering over the timestamp on the comment, right-clicking, and selecting "copy link".


message 148: by Teri-K (new)

Teri-K | 916 comments Wobbley wrote: "It is possible to include a link to a specific comment. For example, here is a link to the comment where James asks his question:

/topic/show/...?..."


I didn't know you could do that! It's very helpful info - thanks.


message 149: by Lynn, New School Classics (new)

Lynn (lynnsreads) | 4939 comments Mod
Great information. Thanks Wobbley.


message 150: by J_BlueFlower (new)

J_BlueFlower (j_from_denmark) | 2183 comments Wobbley wrote: "I got the link by hovering over the timestamp on the comment, right-clicking, and selecting "copy link"."

Why do ŷ hide such a useful tool? Thank you. I also did not know.


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