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I know that the books on the list have changed through the years - with every edition several books were substituted by more recent ones or more international ones.
I've now noticed something else: in the German translation of the book they seem to have added a few books that don't seem to appear in any of the English lists. I did some online-research and compared several of the available lists. I've now come up with 21 books that were part of the 2007 translation my local library has. I've shelved them on GR and they can be found here.
I'm also not sure which of the original books actually was translated. According to the date (2007) it should be the original version from 2006 but it also lists books which only appear from 2008 onwards. The book doesn't give any information on the translation- My guess is that they took into account some of the criticism they received after the publication of the 2006 version and already added a few other books to improve the book.
My library also has a new translation from 2013 which now seems to be a real translation of the most recent list (2012): the 21 books are gone and all the 2010 and 2012 additions are included.
Has anyone made similar experiences with translations into other languages?

Thank you for sharing this information! I knew there was a difference, but couldn't find the German list online. It would be interesting if someone with the French or Spanish translation could let us know if their list was different.

Thanks for shelving them for us! I just added them all to my personal 1001 shelf. :)

The Danish edition includes more Danish books,but the Danish editor also included e.g. Shakespeare and greek tragedies to the list because he disagreed with Boxall & Co's choice of excluding those.

Some of the books specifically included in the Danish edition are: Exile; Doghead; The Exception; Lysistrata; Saxo Grammaticus: The History of the Danes, Books I-IX: I. English Text; II. Commentary; Njal's Saga; The Divine Comedy; The Decameron; Hamlet; Macbeth; Romeo and Juliet;King Lear.

Emu wrote: "The Danish edition includes more Danish books,but the Danish editor also included e.g. Shakespeare and greek tragedies to the list because he disagreed with Boxall & Co's choice of excluding those...."
That is starting to look like a new book. Are you sure it is a translation of Boxall? If so, those are some pretty significant changes, given the Boxall list by and large restricts itself to novels (I know it doesn't keep to that rule either, but does so more than most other lists)

I know there are some similar books in different languages that are not based on the Boxall list. If we are going down that route, there is an interesting German publication called
Das Buch der 1000 Bücher which I've not been able to get hold of a copy, but the list is available online and well worth checking out if you are interested in these sorts of things.

Yes, I'm sure it is the Boxall list - it still has Boxall's introduction. The Danish editor has specifically written that he disagrees with some of Boxall's choices. You can find a link to the book here that states Boxall as the author (in Danish: forfatter):

I understand having a Danish translation of the book that includes some more Danish books to make it more appealing to a Danish audience, but I was also surprised to see the other changes that he had made.

I had no idea that were would be such big changes in the book published in different countries, but I guess it makes sense to appeal to a local audience . . .

I found reference to a Norwegian version of the book online () and there were two books listed that are not in the English lists or in the German/Danish ones listed above.

Berlin Poplars by Anne B. Ragde
Out Stealing Horses by Per Petterson

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Great information! Thanks so much for research and posting.

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I'm confused by the number of books on the group shelves... 1302. I've been under the impression that there have been 1305 books throughout the various editions. I'm just curious.

Sunny in Wonderland wrote: "I'm confused by the number of books on the group shelves... 1302. I've been under the impression that there have been 1305 books throughout the various editions. I'm just curious."

There should be 1305 books on the shelves. If you figure out what the three missing books are, please let Charity know. Or it may be difficulties with titles such as Things: A Story of the Sixties; A Man Asleep -- two separate entries on the 1001 list, but published in one volume and only added to the bookshelves once.

Thanks! I have 1305 on my shelves, but I had to rig it a bit - for instance, I have two separate editions of Things on my shelf with a note that one is for Things and one is for A Man Asleep.

I would love to compile a list of all the alternate 1001 books found in other language editions. I think it is interesting how different books were included in the other editions for other countries. I would love to add them to my tbr if they are written in a language that I can read.

I can help with the additions to the Norwegian edition. I think they added 10 extra books here (not sure which ones they took out to make room for these). Most of these are translated to English.

I’m away on vacation now, but will check my physical copy when I get home next week - just give me a wink if I forget.

Hilde wrote: "I can help with the additions to the Norwegian edition. I think they added 10 extra books here (not sure which ones they took out to make room for these). Most of these are translated to English.
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Thanks Hilde!

Hilde wrote: "I can help with the additions to the Norwegian edition. I think they added 10 extra books here (not sure which ones they took out to make room for these). Most of these are translated to English.
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Awesome! I didn't realize there were variations in the list based on language (although that makes sense). I would definitely like to add them to my "TBR"

I checked my physical copy of the Norwegian edition of the list today (1001 bøker du må lese før du dør), which is based on the original list from 2006.

Unfortunately it didn't have a register to list the extra Norwegian additions, so I scanned the index of all 1001 to try to identify them. So please note that there may be some inaccuracies as I may have overlooked some. But there were more additions than I intially thought, and lots of the books included are part of a series while only listed as one book. Quite a few are translated, but not all it seems though. They may be hard to locate overseas, I am not sure.

I have listed them with the Norwegian title below, and the English title in parenthesis if they are translated.

I have not included the ones that already exist in the English version of the book.

1. The Elling series by Ingvar Ambjørnsen. Consists of four books, strangely only book number 3 seems to be translated to English (all of them are in German though):

1.1 Utsikt til paradiset
1.2 Fugledansen
1.3 Brødre i blodet/(Two English titles:
Elling and Beyond The Great Indoors)
1.4 Elsk meg i morgen

2. De dødes tjern by André Bjerke - doesn't seem to be translated

3. The History of Bestiality Trilogy by Jens Bjørneboe

Bestialitetens historie: Frihetens øyeblikk / Kruttårnet / Stillheten/(The History of Bestiality Trilogy: "Moment Of Freedom" , "The Powderhouse" And "The Silence")

4. Den Siste Viking/(The Last of the Vikings) by Johan Bojer

5. Lillelord by Johan Borgen (same title in both Norwegian and English)

6. Beatles by Lars Saabye Christensen
(same title in both Norwegian and English)

7. The People of Juvik series (six volumes) by Olav Duun. Probably hard to locate in English copies.
7.1 The Trough of the Wave
7.2 The Blind Man
7.3 The Big Wedding
7.4 Odin in Fairyland
7.5 Odin Grows Up
7.6 The Storm

8. Dalen Portland/(Dollar Road) by Kjartan Fløgstad

9. Sofies verden/(Sophie's World) by Jostein Gaarder

10. Trilogy by Jan Kjærstad
10.1 ¹ó´Ç°ù´Úø°ù±ð°ù±ð²Ô/(The Seducer)
10.2 Erobreren/(The Conqueror)
10.3 Oppdageren/(The Discoverer)

11. Naiv. Super/(Naïve. Super) by Erlend Loe

12. Lasso rundt fru Luna/(Lasso Round The Moon) by Agnar Mykle

13. Ut å stjæle hester/(Out Stealing Horses) by Per Petterson

14. The Neshov family by Anne B. Ragde Series of five books, the first two were included on the list, only the first one seems to be translated to English.
14.1 Berlinerpoplene/(Berlin Poplars)
14.2 Eremittkrepsene

15. The series of "Hellemyrsfolket", four books by Amalie Skram. Seems none of them are translated (which is a shame, they are great).
15.1 Sjur Gabriel
15.2 To Venner
15.3 S. G. Myre
15.4 Hellemyrsfolket 3 - Avkom

16. Roman 1987 by Dag Solstad (not translated to English)

17. Is-slottet/(The Ice Palace) by Tarjei Vesaas

18. Kvinnen som kledte seg naken for sin elskede/(The Naked Madonna) by Jan Wiese

Many of these are great. hope you'll enjoy them when/if you get to them :)

Hilde wrote: "I checked my physical copy of the Norwegian edition of the list today (1001 bøker du må lese før du dør), which is based on the original list from 2006.

Unfortunately it didn't ha..."

Hilde, thanks for taking the time to compile this list. I read both Sophie's World and Out Stealing Horses and enjoyed them. I own a few of the translated books - The Ice Palace, Naive Super, Beatles, and two from Kjaerstad's trilogy. I loved Vesaas' The Birds, so I really look forward to reading The Ice Palace. I think I will need to learn Norwegian so I can read the rest of them, too!

You’re welcome! It was nice getting an overview for myself as well, as I mostly use the app to search on lists books. I have read most of these, but some of them are so long ago that I don’t really remember them well. Exciting that you have so many on your shelf already :)

Hilde wrote: "I checked my physical copy of the Norwegian edition of the list today (1001 bøker du må lese før du dør), which is based on the original list from 2006..."

Is Tarjei Vesaas's The Birds in the Norwegian edition along with The Ice Palace? I know that The Birds is his only book in the U. S. edition.
I have been planning on reading Gaarder's Sophie's World some day, I noted that it is #7 on the Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ list "Best Scandanavian books" (3 Steig Larsson books and 2 Astrid Lindgren books are higher).

Thanks Hilde!

George wrote: "Is Tarjei Vesaas's The Birds in the Norwegian edition along with The Ice Palace? I know that The Birds is his only book in the U. S. edition.."

Yes, both these books are included in the Norwegian edition. I didn't add the ones that were included in the US edition, such as for instance this book, Kristin Lavransdatter, Alberta and Jacob, The House with the Blind Glass Windows and the two books by Knut Hamsun etc. as I figured you already knew about these (they are the same in both the Norwegian and UK/US edition).

The Norwegian edition still "only" contain 1001 books, so this mean that they have removed some of the foreign books that are in the UK/US edition. I have never taken the time to go through to try to identify which books they took out, and probably won't as I use the list more as a guide anyway.

Hope you'll enjoy Sophie's World when you get to it! :) I tried to read it when it when I was a teenager, but it was to heavy at that point, so I think I was too young then. Have to try again at some point.

Alana wrote: "Thanks Hilde!"

You're welcome!:)

Does anyone have a complete list of the new entries in the foreign editions? I have found the entries added in the 2012 French pocket edition.