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Noah wrote: "Write new topic, but resist to create multiple ones, and try to comment on others and not duplicate topics."

Thanks!

Savannah wrote: "Pakhi wrote: "Savannah wrote: "Pakhi wrote: "Savannah wrote: "Hello, Pahki. It is great to see more people in the group! Ash just edited their first comment, and it contains some links and tips for..."

I know.

Savannah wrote: "Unfortunately, only a moderator can mark a topic as "important" to mark it above the rest. "
But it's possible, this is awesome! So all we left to do is to wait

Please excuse me if I repeat something which another person has already said, but why is the forum so chaotic? Every forum I know has a certain structure and it seems to me that such a structure could help here, too! If many people post new threads about certain issues, maybe it would help to make bundles? One bundle with all the book related threads, another bundle with all the threads about "What is feminism" and "What does feminism mean to you?" and so on... I guess, bundles would help to make the forum less chaotic, or not?

Sascha wrote: "Please excuse me if I repeat something which another person has already said, but why is the forum so chaotic? Every forum I know has a certain structure and it seems to me that such a structure co..."
Because this is not the actual forum. This platform is designed to discuss books and authors, but not for such an intense conversation about fairly wide range of things which is happening here

Hello there, i jus joined the group n its really messy here. So how do I choose a topic to discuss? Its a bit confusing here.

Ash wrote: "First of all - it's great to see you!

We seem to be working for some very little time, and it's already a bit messy here, since we don't have a well structured discussion board with folders and na..."

Thanks for creating this post to keep us organised! Wonder if we can get the attention of the moderators to pin this post?

Savannah wrote: "I think it would be good if Emma decided on a few extra moderators she trusted to help her manage the group. Specific threads, working on what Ash said, would be a brilliant idea for working toward..."

Great idea! I hope the moderators see this! Of course, we understand and thank Emma for creating this book club for us to share this reading experience together. Nor are we implying that she has an obligation to do certain things for this book club. But I just thought it would be neater if the forum is more organised. Hope no one takes this the wrong way. And once again, thanks to her for creating this book club and thanks to all my fellow book club-mates for being such great people to be together on this journey :)

Garima wrote: "Hello there, i jus joined the group n its really messy here. So how do I choose a topic to discuss? Its a bit confusing here."
Hello Garima!
This board itself is intended to draw people's attention to some particular books about feminism and gender equality, and Emma just started with first one
First Book!! My Life on the Road, By Gloria Steinem
We will read and, at the end of the month, discuss it.
If you have something different in mind, there is a wide range of topics with discussions and, for now, possibility for you to create new one. Good luck!

Hi - not entirely sure if I'm writing this in the right place but does anyone know if there's a list of books in order of reading? I'm trying to get the first book at the moment but finding it hard as it's sold out etc. and I presume this will keep happening at the start of each month. So I was hoping to have about a month to buy the next book which would give bookstores a chance to get it in as I am quite passionate about supporting independent bookstores where I live.Any ideas?

Be patient guys.
I have seen a lot of forums and discussion boards be born, and most don't have very much structure at the very start. It will be added as soon as the need rises (which is ofcourse, now :P ).
But yeh nice one Ash for posting this. This way the moderators get some nice input on what folders and subfolders to create! And in the mean time us users have an idea how to navigate :)

Edit:
Oh and as a side note, Ash, you could maybe add Folder structure suggestions to your original post?
Based on a combination of Kodak's post in this thread: /topic/show/...
combined with Savannah's suggestions in this thread (message 5), along with Lisa Maria's added suggestion also from this thread (message 17)?

Jem wrote: "Hi - not entirely sure if I'm writing this in the right place but does anyone know if there's a list of books in order of reading? I'm trying to get the first book at the moment but finding it hard..."
I sent these proposals directly to our moderators (and actually I may not be only one). The thing is - they can figure out some more robust, comprehensible structure, from their point of view, that will exactly meet their needs. Even if it will be based on suggestions from the community. So it is a vague matter for now

Okay, thanks , Ash. So do I get it right: the idea is to make a forum which is separated from this platform here? So that we have the forum on the one hand for whatever issue may seem appropriate for the community and on the other hand this platform exclusevly for the books? Or will there be no forum in a classic sense and the idea is to use this platform only in a proper way, for discussing books and authors?

If the first is the case, I would be happy because I am a forum nerd and I like to talk about various issues. In the second case I will have to focus exclusevly on posting when I have something to say about the books.

Does this sound reasonable for you or do I make things complicated?

Is Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ even the right platform for this?

Wouldn't Reddit for example suit this discussion based club way better?
With the ability to directly reply to comments and up/downvote them etc.

Sascha wrote: "Okay, thanks , Ash. So do I get it right: the idea is to make a forum which is separated from this platform here? So that we have the forum on the one hand for whatever issue may seem appropriate f..."
Alright, I made a misleading conclusion. My apologies.

By saying "This is not the actual forum" I meant only that functionality of this site doesn't fully meet the current needs of the crowd. It just doesn't meant to be used that way.
But this is a thing, this is an actual and only place for us to conversate. For now, of course. What will happen next, would this discussion board move to another platform (which is very unlikely) or get real - who knows. We don't have a solid set of rules yet, and more than that: we actually don't fully understand the way this board actually meant to be, no one said.
So currently this is a bunch of different threads where we can discuss actually anything, keeping in mind that we're trying to stick to the feminism and equality topics, and to not to mess this place up too much.

Bump? :D

One hundred threads! Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition

You may have noticed that a new thread has been set up to discuss the number of threads that have been set up. Groan.

Mara wrote: "Is Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ even the right platform for this?

Wouldn't Reddit for example suit this discussion based club way better?
With the ability to directly reply to comments and up/downvote them etc."
This is a good place, because it is directly related to books. It just need some moderation and strict rules to follow; without those things discussion club in any platrofm can go wrong

Hey Ash, okay, I have no clue about the technical stuff. But I will do my best not to mess this place up with vague und unrelated issues and I will try to focus on making comments only when they are related to the books and maybe sometimes making comments at the broader debates about feminism. I hope this is of help for you because I don't see any other way of making it easier for you.

Sascha wrote: "Hey Ash, okay, I have no clue about the technical stuff. But I will do my best not to mess this place up with vague und unrelated issues and I will try to focus on making comments only when they ar..."
Thank you very much, Sascha! But actually I'm ready to give up because our moderators are quiet about anything administration-related for some reason. We will see in a few days

As long as there is some more structure before the discussion week for the first book begins :)
The initial chaos and over enthusiasm will settle down in a few days anyway hopefully :)
As for the moderators/moderation, give them some time :) I am sure they are somewhat overwhelmed, and otherwise busy people. Have patience!
And Ash, as you can see many of us in this young community appreciate what you are trying to do :)

Yes I agree with you, Jonathan! A big Thank you and Hooray for the people like Ash who make this whole thing possible!

Thanks to Emma!

Oops... yes, sure, also flowers to Emma, the woman who had this brilliant idea and kicked off the whole thing!

(Commenting just so that this topic will be towards the top of the list) haha don't mind me!

I'm very excited to be able to participate in this awesome adventure with you all!!

Hi I'm Maria

We must have some order. I think it's important to have big topics. I mean, it'd me a terrible mess if we'd have a lot of topics with 2-3 comments, or more topics that are the same. Just some ideas for Main topics

Introductions, in which we say who we are, from where are we from, hobbies, age or stuff like that. It will be fun to write about things like these, just to know each other.
What is feminism?, in which everyone can say what is feminism to them, or their definition.
Emma's topics, in which she can tell us the books, or her decision (of course, they will be more than one)
Stories about feminism. I think it will be brilliant to have something like that, to confess if feminism helped us or not, in what situations the feminism played an important role in our lives, why we are feminists, since when etc.
Suggestions, of books or anything that would help Emma and us to make this club a better place (it's awesome already, but always can be better)

Hope everything will be okay and my ideas don't upset anyone :)

I think your idea are really great, Mihaela! There are quite a few threads which are large and thriving already, but there are those numerous, little commented on threads which are a bit clutter-y. I am sure that Emma and Luke will organize the group a bit when they have some more time and learn more about the site. ^^ I know that when I started I was a little lost for awhile, but I had some great friends to help me, and with your suggestions and Ash's, etc, I am sure Emma will take them into account in no time!

I can't believe I've found this topic! I am thrilled! Guys, why is it everything so messy out there!? Anyway, I just want to thank Ash for creating this space. It's always great finding some organization ;)

Savannah wrote: "I think it would be good if Emma decided on a few extra moderators she trusted to help her manage the group. Specific threads, working on what Ash said, would be a brilliant idea for working toward..."

Ditto.

Just bumping this up to the top before I sleep. ^^

Here are my two bits:

It is only a conjecture but I think good reads discussions are meant to be about books and Emma's intentions in creating this discussion was only to discuss about particular books which she chooses every month.

There are other forums where discussions such as feminism, etc. can take place. Creating new topics that have nothing to do with the book we are supposed to be discussing IMHO defeats the purpose of the good reads discussion.

I therefore humbly request everyone to not create topics, let Emma do that. Let us only discuss the book suggested by Emma at the end of every month in the topic created by her.

Ashwin wrote: "I therefore humbly request everyone to not create topics, let Emma do that."
I suspect that this is a way this group actually meant by creators to be. Anyway, this ain't already. Nothing can prevent people having this option from using it; only moderators can restrict an access.
It is very likely that this group will go further in a current state, for some time at least.

Meanwhile I want to thank all the great people out there for their effort - on preventing this group from being chaotic as it could possibly be! We definitely made some difference together.

Bump bump!

Bump!

More people need to see this!

Elizabeth wrote: "More people need to see this!"

Hi, Elizabeth! It is one of the biggest threads, so I am sure more people will see this soon. Have a good day :)

Hi. I am Theodora, i am from Brazil. In the first place, i never thought i would come here. I was just doing a research about "books for read in 2016" and then i came here. On this website. Seriously, i am very happy. More happier to start new all of you. I don't know much about english, so if i write a wrong word, sorry.
I am 17 old and i like to read novels book and drama. I also watch series and movies. The romantic ones.

This NEEDS to be pinned at the top of the discussions!! I'm glad Emma is using Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ but I have a feeling there are those who just joined for Emma and have no prior experience with Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ or discussion etiquette. Gahh all the extra topics are so frustrating!! I wish I could sort them too x)

bump bump bump

I love this thread! Everything's so messy and it's driving me crazy - glad to know I'm not the only one :)
Hopefully after the first few weeks, the frenzy till fade a little bit and everything will calm down.

I wanted to suggest something for the "guidelines". Maybe you could add to the paragraph about topics, that if someone discovers they have created a duplicate topic, they remember to delete it.

Some of the topics (like a couple of the ones about intersectional feminism) are just taking up space now.

Just something I noticed now. There is a thread that has incorrect spelling of "Miss Watson" and it made me think of spelling. I understand that English is not every bodies first language, but if someone notices any misspelled words on any thread titles, perhaps you could be so kind as to point that out to the person who made the thread?

Astrid wrote: "I wanted to suggest something for the "guidelines". Maybe you could add to the paragraph about topics, that if someone discovers they have created a duplicate topic, they remember to delete it."
Great idea, Astrid! Just updated the guidlines. Thank you very much!

Savannah wrote: "if someone notices any misspelled words on any thread titles, perhaps you could be so kind as to point that out to the person who made the thread?"
Completely agree! The question is - how should we do this: by commenting the topic itself or via private message to the author?

I want to automatize the process of bumping this thread, say for every minute, since we can't just pin it on the top. :( Currently I'm fighting with an API - docs are pretty bad, incomplete and obsolete, and the platform just refuses to authorize me automatically for some reason

James Why are Feminist not speaking out about real rape culture?
The 2015 New Years Eve Attacks in #Cologne (#Köln)
Oh I guess they have to do more important things...Like starting a bookclub...I guess women getting raped and sexually assaulted doesn't count on the Feminist list of priorities, I mean unless they can blame it on White Men..Then they are all in. Feminist are such liars and cowards. If anyone wishes to Learn more about the Attack against women in Cologne here is a great video link. Please everyone spread the information that extremist progressives are afraid to talk about. Everyone please reject Feminist ideology and become Humanist.

Paige, there are a few places where you can make book suggestion. Ash has linked to one of them in the first message of this thread :)

You're sure that we can't pin this topic for everything to see it ? Somebody who is moderator in other group can confirm ?
Anyways, it's a great initiative and it's help a lot :)