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2019 Read Harder Challenge > Task #8: An #ownvoices book set in Oceania

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Jill Stevenson (jsteven3) | 4 comments “Rush Oh� by Shirley Barrett


message 52: by Sonia (new)

Sonia Mcintosh If anyone likes dystopian fiction I can recommend The Interrogation of Ashala Wolf. Set after a catastrophic event in Australia some have developed special powers. Includes Dreamtime spirituality in the novels as well. I great read, the first in a series.


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Jenny (sapphicbookdragon) | 115 comments Would The People In The Trees by Hanya Yanagihara count?


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Zoe (zoemmaude) | 37 comments Allison ༻hikes the bookwoods� wrote: "Some of the titles I'm considering for this task:

Sister Heart
Carpentaria
Follow the Rabbit-Proof Fence
Swallow the Air
[book:The Bone ..."


I got Carpentaria on Audible so will be listening to that for this one!


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Karin (8littlepaws) | 119 comments Jenny wrote: "Would The People In The Trees by Hanya Yanagihara count?"

No, Yanagihara is American.


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Gretel (gretelrot) | 17 comments Jenny wrote: "Would The People In The Trees by Hanya Yanagihara count?"

That's a good question. She's Japanese-American (her family name is Japanese) but she's lived in Hawai'i since her childhood. According to her wikipediapage, her father's lived in Hawai'i either for a very long time or since birth. Yanagihara's mother's Korean, while her father is American with Japanese ancestors.
I mean...this sounds like you could argue for both Yes and No.


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Kristina Burke (dockris) one of the blog posts i read about this task had Bridge of Clay by Markus Zusak (author of the book thief)


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Bonnie G. (narshkite) | 1413 comments I don't believe Hawaii is parr of Oceania


message 59: by Jenny (new)

Jenny (sapphicbookdragon) | 115 comments Ah, I thought she was actually Hawaiian, OK


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Kate | 116 comments Kristina wrote: "one of the blog posts i read about this task had Bridge of Clay by Markus Zusak (author of the book thief)"

I don't think Bridge of Clay would qualify - Markus Zusak is the son of European immigrants to Australia, and having read about half of Bridge of Clay before deciding I hated it, it appears to be about a white experience.


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Gretel (gretelrot) | 17 comments Bonnie wrote: "I don't believe Hawaii is parr of Oceania"

Yes, it is.

"Geographically, Hawaii is considered to be located in Oceania. The continent of Oceania consists of four regions: Australasia, Micronesia, Polynesia, and Melanesia. Polynesia consists of a number of sovereign states and thousands of inhabited and habited islands. Initially, the term Polynesia referred to the islands of the Pacific, but in 1831, the Geographical Society of Paris restricted the word to mean South Sea Islands. The Polynesia Region is mapped by a triangle in the Pacific Ocean. Polynesia includes Samoa, New Zealand, Norfolk Island, Tonga, Tuvalu, the Cook Islands, and on the northernmost tip of the triangle, lies the islands of Hawaii."


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Judith Rich | 124 comments I completely forgot I actually have a bookshelf labelled "Oceania" - what a numpty. Having a quick look at it, the following would count (as well as the ones I've recommended previously)

Moving Through The Streets by Joseph Veramu
Sidewinder by Alastair Te Ariki Campbell.

I didn't like them, but someone else might!

I've just ordered the two sequels to "Frangipani".


message 63: by Emma (new)

Emma | 32 comments I finally found my book! - Terra Nullius


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Book Riot Community (book_riot) | 457 comments Mod
Cross-posting this from the other #ownvoices task discussion, with some additional commentary on Oceania specifically.

"Hi everyone! Thanks for the discussion. In the broader publishing industry, an author from Central America or Mexico *is* marginalized because the industry is extremely US/UK-centric. So a book by an author from those countries would count even if they are a member of a majority of the population of that nation, but, for example, a book by an American author writing about Mexico would not. Of course there are nuances here, but we trust that y'all understand the spirit of the challenge, which is to read a variety of perspectives not dominant in the publishing industry."

That's to say that white authors from Australia would not be considered marginalized. For this task, marginalized people from Oceania writing about characters who are marginalized in the same way - in this case Aboriginal people or those from the islands of Oceania - are considered #ownvoices. Again, there are nuances, but hopefully this will clarify what the intent of the task is.


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Audra (themonkeygirl) | 101 comments Emma wrote: "I finally found my book! - Terra Nullius"

Oh yea! I'm doing this one too!


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Alicia M (aliciajm) | 9 comments My shortlist for this one is:
1. The Swan Book by Alexis Wright (female, Australian Aboriginal)
2. Carpentaria by Alexis Wright (Australian Aboriginal)
3. The Whale Rider by Witi Ihimaera (Maori)
4. Where We Once Belonged by Sia Figiel (female, Samoan) 

I was going to add The Bone People by Keri Hulme but was unsure if it fully fit the challenge as Hulme is of Maori descent but also English/Scottish descent. Although her character is also part Maori and part European so they do share similar heritage of both being part Maori and part something else


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Luella | 8 comments I was thinking of possibly the The Thorn Birds. The author's mother was of Maori decent and the book is about Irish-Maori people in Australia.

Her obituary was also notably atrocious...


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BookWormBen (profben10) | 50 comments I will be reading Where the Streets Had a Name.


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Kelly | 30 comments I'm looking at a few romances/romancesque titles for this challenge, including:

Conquered, by Paula Ann Lujan Quinene, is an #ownvoices romance set in Guam during World War II, so it also would work for Task #16, an historical romance by an author of color. I can't find it on GoodReads but it's included with Kindle Unlimited:

Scarlet Lies: Book One in the Scarlet Series by Lani Wendt Young. The author is Samoan, and I believe this is a self-published title (Task #23) as well but I'm not sure. Telesa: The Covenant Keeper is another one of her books.

Scar of the Bamboo Leaf by Sieni A.M., another Samoan author.

Breadfruit by Celestine Vaite, a Tahitian author.


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Audra (themonkeygirl) | 101 comments Kelly wrote: "I'm looking at a few romances/romancesque titles for this challenge, including:

Conquered, by Paula Ann Lujan Quinene, is an #ownvoices romance set in Guam during World War II, so it also would wo..."


I could do Breadfruit. This category is killing me for some reason.


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Lauredhel | 10 comments Coming to second Terra Nullius and The Interrogation of Ashala Wolf which are both amazing books; and Randa Abdel-Fattah and Sarah Ayoub.

Also look at Anita Heiss, a Wiradjuri woman, who has written a romance series, Barbed Wire and Cherry Blossoms, and Tiddas, as well as nonfiction book "Am I Black Enough For You?"

For YA you could look at Erin Gough's book The Flywheel and Amelia Westlake. And Ugly by Robert Hoge has both a younger readers version and an adult version (it's a memoir, not fiction, but I think it counts?).

I know there are so many more... oh, I can't leave out Queens of Geek and The Brightsiders by Jen Wilde.

And Mullumbimby by Melissa Lucashenko, one of my favourite Aussie books of all time, and Becoming Kirrali Lewis.

And anthology Meet Me At The Intersection.


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Brandon Harbeke I just finished The Whale Rider. In addition to being very good, it's also short enough to read in one sitting, so it works well for a challenge.


message 73: by Kelly (new)

Kelly | 30 comments Lauredhel wrote: "Coming to second Terra Nullius and The Interrogation of Ashala Wolf which are both amazing books; and Randa Abdel-Fattah and Sarah Ayoub.

Also look at Anita Heiss, a Wiradjuri woman, who has written a romance series, Barbed Wire and Cherry Blossoms, and Tiddas, as well as nonfiction book "Am I Black Enough For You?"


Thanks! Great recs.


message 74: by Alice (new)

Alice Wouldn't Courtney Peppernell's books count? Courtney is from Sydney and part of the LGBTQ+ community. Her book Pillow Thoughts is her poetry about her experiences, including relationships!

Courtney Peppernell Pillow Thoughts by Courtney Peppernell


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Amie (amie410) | 3 comments Would The Descendants by Kaui Hart Hemmings work for this?


Leslie (updates on SG) (leslie_ann) | 153 comments I'm trying to fulfill these prompts with books for my Around-the-World Reading Challenge. So, I'm choosing Kalyana.


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Angela | 10 comments Does the Phryne Fisher series count? Does writing about a female in a male-dominated industry (private detection) count as #ownvoice if it's written by a woman with a law degree (also a male dominated profession)? I suspect this is a stretch.


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Lily Emerson (gentlepet) | 1 comments I’m going to throw Alan Duff’s Once Were Warriors in as a suggestion - it’s excellent.

For those asking Keri Hulme would definitely count for this challenge. Almost all Maori have some European blood, but in a Maori worldview there is no such thing as “part� Maori. You either identify with the culture or you don’t. Hulme certainly does.


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Tara (tarars) | 4 comments I am adding the recently published, Can You Tolerate This? : essays. Ashleigh Young also became the first New Zealander to win Yale University's Windham-Campbell Prize for this collection of personal essays.


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Linda Chance | 1 comments Tabitha wrote: "Melissa Lucashenko came up on a list and seems to have a number of books that could fit like Too Much Lip or Steam Pigs. . . Those are two I read the ..."

I have only read one of Lucashenko’s novels, Mullumbimby, and based on that one I would recommend trying whatever you can get your hands on.


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Bonnie G. (narshkite) | 1413 comments Tara wrote: "I am adding the recently published, Can You Tolerate This? : essays. Ashleigh Young also became the first New Zealander to win Yale University's Windham-Campbell Prize for this collection of person..."

This looks wonderful. Thanks for the recommendation


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Lauren Stoolfire | 38 comments Catching Teller Crow by Ambelin and Ezekiel Kwaymullina -  This sounds like a fantastic Indigenous Australian YA mystery/ fantasy to me.


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Lauredhel | 10 comments Coming to heartily second Catching Teller Crow, it's great


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Leslie Fleck | 2 comments Would Moloka'i by Alan Brennert work? I'm seeing good things about this book on some book club threads I follow.


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Allie (allieeveryday) Leslie wrote: "Would Moloka'i by Alan Brennert work? I'm seeing good things about this book on some book club threads I follow."

Moloka'i is neither set in Oceania (Hawaii isn't considered Oceania) nor an ownvoices novel (author is an American). Sorry.


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Leslie Fleck | 2 comments I think there must be some debate on this as several websites I’ve checked include Hawaii, although it’s at the edge of Oceania’s borders.


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Judith Rich | 124 comments I finished "Breadfruit" for this challenge (published in the UK as "The Marriage Proposal") and it definitely fits #ownvoices - it deals with serious issues affecting Pacific Islanders in French Polynesia in a light-hearted way. The author is Tahitian (although her birth father was French, she was brought up entirely Tahitian).

However, I think "Frangipani" by the same author was better.

I have the third one in the series to read later!

For what it's worth on the Hawaii debate - I just watched a TV programme on the history of art of Oceania and that included Hawai'ian artists who very much thought of themselves as of Oceania! So I guess it depends who you ask!


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Susanne | 55 comments Leslie wrote: "I think there must be some debate on this as several websites I’ve checked include Hawaii, although it’s at the edge of Oceania’s borders."

Wikipedia says about Hawaii:
"Hawaii is the only U.S. state located in Oceania, the only U.S. state located outside North America, and the only one composed entirely of islands."


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Lea (leasummer) Here's a list of New Zealand romance books. I'll be reading something from Tracey Alvarez.
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message 90: by Teresa (new)

Teresa | 416 comments Hawaiians are Americans.


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Mya R | 279 comments Angela wrote: "Does the Phryne Fisher series count? Does writing about a female in a male-dominated industry (private detection) count as #ownvoice if it's written by a woman with a law degree (also a male domina..."


It's past a stretch. #ownvoices is about listening to people who are marginalized & under-represented. While it's true a female author has more challenges than a man, a white female in Australia is still very privileged, & in no way a minority. (Depending on where one is, indigenous authors may not be minorities in their own country, but they are very much minorities within the world of publishing.)


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Mya R | 279 comments Teresa wrote: "Hawaiians are Americans."

Hawaiians are Americans, but indigenous Hawaiians may also consider themselves to be Pacific Islanders, Asian Pacific Islanders, &/or Oceanic.


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Olivia | 9 comments Lauredhel wrote: "Coming to second Terra Nullius and The Interrogation of Ashala Wolf which are both amazing books; and Randa Abdel-Fattah and Sarah Ayoub.

Also look at Anita Heiss, a Wiradjuri woman, who has writ..."


Fantastic suggestions. I'm just going to add the anthology Anita Heiss edited, Growing Up Aboriginal in Australia to the list if someone is looking for a non-fiction option.


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Amber (ambrosian) | 4 comments I am native Hawaiian. I am an American, but my race is Pacific Islander or native Hawaiian. And as explained above, Hawaii is in Oceania, so I'd say native Hawaiians writing about Hawaii (like some of Kaui Hart Hemmings' books) would fit this task. Alan Brennert would not.


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Carolina (calaqua) | 68 comments Any suggestions that aren’t too expensive to buy, kindle would be great?
I doubt I’m going to find a book in the library that fits. I’m in the UK.


message 96: by Megan (new)

Megan | 130 comments I read The Descendants by Kaui Hart Hemmings, which was included in the for 2019 read harder titles.


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Megan | 131 comments Teresa wrote: "Hawaiians are Americans."

Not necessarily.


message 98: by Teresa (new)

Teresa | 416 comments Megan wrote: "Teresa wrote: "Hawaiians are Americans."

Not necessarily."


In my opinion, your statement makes as much sense as saying New Yorkers are not necessarily Americans or Idahoans are not necessarily Americans. They are all American states, therefore one of their many identities is American.


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Book Riot Community (book_riot) | 457 comments Mod
Hey everyone! Our list of recommendations for this task is up:


message 100: by Jesica (new)

Jesica | 10 comments Book Riot wrote: "Hey everyone! Our list of recommendations for this task is up: "

I'm actually really bummed that there are no books by/about native Hawaiians on this list, especially considering the conversations in this thread and the clear need for our stories to be told


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