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Yes, this is on a different topic that was closed. This thread is for discussing promotional newsletters/websites that promote free and discounted books.

Bookzio.com and bookbrag.com



Yes, and all I'll say is don't bother. For me, it was a total waste of time and money. Customer Service is awful and I had to keep contacting them to even put the obligatory review from one of their own people up. The links they posted for my book were faulty and didn't link to my book correctly.
They're supposed to put your book out there for people to see but I couldn't see anything done by them at all. I don't recommend them at all, too much money for not enough return from them in my opinion.


Yes, and all I'll say is don't bother. For me, it was a ..."
Very helpful!! Thank you so much. E.A. Sorry you had such a bad experience, because yeah, they're crazy expensive for no results!


Thanks for sharing your notes. It all helps in this crazy business.




You're welcome Christina. Book Runes is definitely good for sales in the UK, Canada, and Australia. Hope your next promo goes well.
With you being a seasoned veteran in such matters, I wonder if you, or any of the other folks in the group, would have any advice as to the best sites to use for a book launch. I've been keeping a keen eye on people's results over in the 'Stacked Promo' thread, and think that Bargain Booksy followed by an ENT feature could be the way to go. I've never done a big promo on a paid title before, and to all intents and purposes it won't look like a discounted book, as I'm publishing it at 99c/99p and leaving it there for the first fortnight to a month, before increasing the price to $2.99/£1.99. It'll be novel length, so seems an appropriate price when my shorter tales are all on sale at 99c/99p.
Although everyone's experience varies, what sort of sales do you think I might garner from each of these sites for an occult mystery? An alternative approach I've been mulling over is running a free promotion on an earlier book in the series in the hope of spillover sales.
Any advice welcome. Cheers!


I've just joined, so can anyone please tell me if Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ is beneficial to indie authors? I've spent so much time promoting my book instead on writing away on a sequel that I now feel dispirited and fatigued.
Adrian wrote: "Hello,
I've just joined, so can anyone please tell me if Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ is beneficial to indie authors..."
Well, this group is more beneficial if members stay on topic and this is off topic. As for if Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ in general is beneficial... not sure what you mean. It can be, I suppose. Maybe flesh out your question a little more and start a new thread, perhaps in the marketing folder?
I've just joined, so can anyone please tell me if Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ is beneficial to indie authors..."
Well, this group is more beneficial if members stay on topic and this is off topic. As for if Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ in general is beneficial... not sure what you mean. It can be, I suppose. Maybe flesh out your question a little more and start a new thread, perhaps in the marketing folder?

Has anyone had any success with promoting your book in Ingram Spark's "ADVANCED" magazine.
I'm finding them quite uncooperative about the ad, when it will appear and actually giving me a copy of the ad. Sounds ridiculous, right? Thanks! Christine


Thanks so much for all of the detailed information on your first-hand experience. I really appreciate it. This will help when my husband launches his novel this summer.

Thanks for your comments Christina. I've decided to go for a hybrid approach, so will be running a Bargain Booksy promo later this week, followed by a big push on a book from my back catalogue from Monday to Friday next week. I'll report back on the results over in the stacked promo folder.


Too late I got sucked in, not once but twice. For what it's worth, I've yet to see the "ad" which is supposed to be posted this month and the Ingram Spark support stinks regarding when the ad appears. Ugh! Lesson learned. So I haven't even seen an ad appear yet! Bought it in February! Ridiculous!

How long did it take for Book Hippo to feature your book? Did it work on your first submission, o..."
Hello, I'm sorry I didn't see this one before. If I remember right, I submitted to Book Hippo a few times before they featured my book. I did not use a professional editor.

Also, does it count as an 'impression' (where your ad shows itself) if a book buyer does not click on the arrow for the second and third etc etc, pages of sponsored ads?
And while we're on the subject, what does it take for Amazon to push your book in their daily featured emails we get every day? They plug books every day to me and you, I'm sure.

Also, does..."
None if this is truly on topic as this discussion was meant to compare notes on free and discounted promo sites, but to answer:
Bid higher.
Amazon takes your bid price into account when placing the ads. You also want as many keywords as possible.
An impression will only register when your ad is viewable, so no, there is no impression if they don't click next.
As for the emails, Amazon sends out books in the tailored to your history email, so if you constantly look at your own page, you'll likely get an email recommending your own book. Anyone who looks at similar books may also see yours. Anyone who follows your author page will get an email when you release a new book.
If you mean the deal of the day emails, you'll have to be big enough to get on Amazon's radar and have them offer you the chance to put your book on a discount that they will run to the masses. I've known very few Indies who have had this. You have better idds with BookBub.

Noisetrade has an email newsletter they send out to bring attention to albums or books, and after reading author blogs about how this newsletter feature resulted in 500-2K downloads for them, I thought I would give it a try. It was $50 for a feature in the newsletter. The result for my book was 33 downloads. I would not pay $50 for a feature with them again but some authors seem to have done all right with it.

Another thing to add is # of reviews. 50 5-star is the first jump point, and 100 gets Amazon to push your book on their own.
This is one reason why reviews matter. Always have an independent (not Mom or a friend) editor and another independent proofreader before pub.
Pay attention to covers. It pays to have professional covers.
In addition to writing and reading westerns, I read a lot of syfy. I use my private browser when searching Amazon syfy so it doesn't affect my Western searches on Amaz.

Thank you for taking the time to answer at length, Christina.

Another thing to add is # of reviews. 50 5-star is the first jump point, and 100 gets Amazon to push your book on their own.
This is one reason why reviews matter. Al..."
Interesting what you say about editors, Frank. I had three great editors work on my books. One Steven Bauer, a real pro, two, my daughter Lauren, also a pro, and a proof reader, formerly an English teacher. So, from what you are saying, having my daughter's name appear as main editor maybe a drawback.


Their fee covers just one day on their website and inclusion in their daily mailing.

Much appreciate the reply.

Another thing to add is # of reviews. 50 5-star is the first jump point, and 100 gets Amazon to push your book on their own.
This is one reason why reviews matter. Al..."
Both Amazon and top NYT best-selling authors have confirmed that the number of reviews has absolutely nothing to do with the visibility of a book.
But again, this topic is for promo site discussion only. Please return to topic.

This is also off topic. There is a thread regarding libraries in the marketing folder.
Christina wrote: "Top right under the group name is a search bar."
The search bar doesn't seem to be working right, at least for me. I posted a link to Felix in one of the multiple places he posted about libraries. I'm removing the rest. No need to post this question all over the place.
The search bar doesn't seem to be working right, at least for me. I posted a link to Felix in one of the multiple places he posted about libraries. I'm removing the rest. No need to post this question all over the place.

I sent them an email asking for their average number of clicks and their newsletter subscriber count. I didn't want to spend money on them without having an idea of their numbers. This is how they replied:
"Our policy has always been to not provide those numbers. At best, they can be manipulated, and isn't a true view of the value provided."
Anyone else find that fishy? Every other site I've contacted has been more than willing to give up their numbers, and the best sites even post the numbers right on the submission page. Their reply really turns me off from working with them. Has anyone had any experience with them, or thoughts about this in general?

On the Booksy sites, you might try coupon code PAIDAUTHOR-5 for 5% off.
Book Gorilla just sent out a coupon code for 40% off a feature. The coupon is good for features booked before Sept 17th and availability starts Oct 1st. Coupon code: BG40

Based on what I read it's a get paid with "reader coins" to promote your book. And readers get paid to read as well with the same kind of coins.
Has anyone tried this?

Thanks for the tip with booksy - just happened to see this yesterday before booking a slot, so saved 5%!
James wrote: "Hi. I don't read the rules."
Read the rules James. No bookwhacking, no links, no hijacking...
Read the rules James. No bookwhacking, no links, no hijacking...