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(1) Though there was little doubt that Diana would be "the fun parent," she made extra effort to have her fun in public, so that Charles would by contrast look uninvolved in raising his sons.
(2) When Buckingham Palace opened to the public, the Queen put Charles in charge.
- He bemoaned selling cheap items in the gift shop. Though, what exactly is "cheap" to Charles?
Aug 12, 2021 04:20AM
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Notes:
(1) Following retirement from the military, William and Kate moved into Kensington Palace apartment 1A, which features four stories, twenty rooms and a private garden.
- My first apartment was a one bedroom with a window view of a brick wall.
(2) In 2012 Harry was photographed naked at a party in Las Vegas.
- First rule of naked Vegas party: check phones at the door!
Aug 23, 2021 04:30AM
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Notes:
(1) Charles recycles his bathwater to water his garden.
- I'm more surprised that he takes baths.
(2) William's 21st birthday was fancy dress.
- It was notable for a gate-crasher dressed as Osama bin Laden, also as the first royal event attended by Kate Middleton.
(3) Harry's Nazi costume sparked international government condemnation.
- Seems overkill for kid idiocy.
Aug 22, 2021 04:30AM
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Jayson
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Notes:
(1) "Stephen Fry['s] ubiquity at such functions put him perilously close to court jester status."
- From what I know of Stephen Fry, I'm sure he'd take court jester as an honor.
(2) Camilla was so unpopular that there were plans to elevate Princess Anne to "Royal Partner," to perform consort duties instead.
- Reminds me of when Chelsea Clinton was briefly First Lady.
Aug 19, 2021 04:50AM
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Jayson
Jayson is on page 329 of 624


Notes:
(1) The portion of the book dealing with Diana's death is both the most moving part of the book and the least interesting.
- I know it all already.
(2) In my opinion, the British public never really accepted the divorce. There wasn't enough time. As such, to the public, they always will be married and, no matter how official, Camilla will always be "the other woman."
Aug 18, 2021 04:00AM
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Notes:
(1) Following a long royal tradition of hiring "men of indeterminate sexuality," Charles hired PR wunderkind Mark Bolland.
- William and Harry nicknamed him Lord Blackadder.
(2) Diana fell in love with a Pakistani heart surgeon. He dumped her for being "needy and suffocating."
- Eg. she would be furious with him for declining her phone calls while performing surgery.
Aug 17, 2021 04:00AM
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Jayson
Jayson is on page 303 of 624


Notes:
(1) To secure the infamous 1995 Panorama interview, Martin Bashir used fake financial documents to convince Diana that her staff was spying on her.
- This deceit was only uncovered this year.
(2) As intended, the interview permanently burnt bridges with the royals.
- As a direct result, the Queen demanded Charles and Diana divorce. She could no longer be queen-to-be.
Aug 16, 2021 04:00AM
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Jayson is on page 271 of 624


Notes:
(1) Best chapter of the book so far covers 1991-1992, from Diana's press offensive against Charles, to the Morton biography, to the separation.
- I sort of wish the entire book was the scandalous parts, but then, it wouldn't be a comprehensive biography.
(2) In 1992, there was still hope, despite the separation, that Diana would be crowned Queen.
- How very medieval.
Aug 11, 2021 04:00AM
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Notes:
(1) Diana's nickname for Camilla was "Rottweiler."
- I can't tell whether that was a reference to her appearance or her temperament.
(2) Charles kept his affair monogamous and out of public view. Conversely, Diana carried on several affairs simultaneously, and in full view of Kensington Palace staff and her children.
- So very different. Little wonder it didn't work.
Aug 09, 2021 04:00AM
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Notes:
(1) Dorchester needed to expand. Rather than sell off land to developers, Charles decided to build his own town, Poundbury.
- As Duke of Cornwall, I suppose it's technically his land to decide what do with.
(2) Seems very authoritarian to deny townsfolk a supermarket and cinema for aesthetic reasons.
- Though, to be fair, they did choose to live in Charles' Sim City.
Aug 08, 2021 04:35AM
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Notes:
(1) This biography seems to be going through the 1980s year by year.
- It makes sense, since those were the Diana years, and the most interesting to casual readers.
(2) What tipped off the press to marriage difficulties was that Charles and Diana stayed in different hotel rooms.
- Of course, that would've been no big deal a generation earlier, especially for royalty.
Aug 03, 2021 05:10AM
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message 1: by Amy (new)

Amy That seems odd - a waterslide in jacket weather? :)


Jayson Amy wrote: "That seems odd - a waterslide in jacket weather? :)"

Could be that the jackets kept them from walking around the park soaking wet. Alternatively, an autumn day may have been the only opportunity they had to go to an amusement park? 🤷‍♂�

In any case, still less out of place than the bodyguard, he went down the waterslide with William in a full suit and tie :)


message 3: by Laura (new)

Laura I have to say that I wouldn't read this book but I am really enjoying your updates and readings your thoughts and introspection!


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Brittany McCann Dang sounds like this is an extreme Diana bashing book


Jayson Laura wrote: "I have to say that I wouldn't read this book but I am really enjoying your updates and readings your thoughts and introspection!"

Thanks, Laura! I appreciate it. I'm happy you're enjoying the updates.


Jayson Brittany wrote: "Dang sounds like this is an extreme Diana bashing book"

I don't know if I'd necessarily say that this is Diana-bashing. I would say that the book does favor Charles' side slightly, though overall I'd say it's fairly even-handed. Personally, I don't believe that Diana was the spotless saint we all remember her as.

Through the latter half of her marriage and into the early years following their separation, she was known to be a good deal vindictive toward Charles and the Royal family in general, and understandably so considering how she was treated. She had openly discussed her many suicide attempts and poor mental health, which has been corroborated by staff and friends, so it's no secret that she had a volatile temperament.

I think in her own words she admitted to deliberately undermining Charles, though I'd have to check the footnotes about whether she's on record as saying this herself or whether it's something a friend heard her say.


message 7: by Chad (new)

Chad Even though I don't care enough about the royal family to read this myself, I agree with Laura. I do enjoy reading your updates.


Jayson Chad wrote: "Even though I don't care enough about the royal family to read this myself, I agree with Laura. I do enjoy reading your updates."

I'm happy to hear that, Chad! I do keep that in mind, when I write updates, that people who might not be interested in the book or subject matter could still find it interesting or amusing :)


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Ashley Shea Jayson wrote: "She had openly discussed her many suicide attempts and poor mental health, which has been corroborated by staff and friends, so it's no secret that she had a volatile temperament."

Careful Jayson, it sounds like you're calling her an hysterical female. Poor mental health and suicide attempts due to the treatment she endured should have been handled better. She should have had more support. I've not read this or any Diana biographies, so I am by no means an authority, but as heir to the British throne, he is always going to come out looking shinier, she was always going to be vilified by default. She might not have been a saint, but I don't believe he ever did right by her.

Harry LEFT THE ROYAL FAMILY to get Meghan away from that environment, and she was forced to tell everyone about her own suicidal struggles in order for the public to take her seriously. There may not actually be any parallel, but I'm just pointing out the coincidences to highlight how women are so often referred to as hysterical or attention-seeking in order to undermine them, and it's sickening. Does this take attention away from Diana's less-than-saint-like behavior? I just think they're separate, her affairs shouldn't invalidate her poor mental health.

Sorry, I think some of my frustration is also over your note about Diana being the fun parent: perhaps having fun with her sons was her only escape from royal life, the only time she got to show them a normal childhood. What choice did she have but to do it in public? As people watched her every minute of her royal life. And who else was going to help those boys have fun and any semblance of a childhood? If not Charles, then by definition, he wasn't involved, forget appearing to be uninvolved, he was uninvolved. Was someone preventing him from taking his sons to amusement parks? This may have just been public perception, they might have been perfectly happy with their arrangement.

Again, what do I know? I haven't read anything about this. I'm American, what does my opinion even matter?


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Brittany McCann Ashley wrote: "Jayson wrote: "She had openly discussed her many suicide attempts and poor mental health, which has been corroborated by staff and friends, so it's no secret that she had a volatile temperament."

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Ashley: I will have to read the book myself. But based on the selected quotes, and everything else I have read over the years, Diana was always going to be painted in a darker light than Charles. Was she perfect? Absolutely not, but it is easy to look back now and see how much pain she was in. In what my son refers to as the 19s: anytime in the 1900s) mental health was never as openly accepted to deal with as it has become in recent years. To play devil's advocate to my own opinion, I am sure that a monarchy was less receptive to mental health than the open public. Having lived IN America my entire life, I honestly do not know a lot about the healthcare system and the way that mental health care has evolved, but I can imagine it was similarly taboo at the time and for many other "royals" that were supposed to represent strength and leadership.


Jayson Ashley wrote: "Careful Jayson, it sounds like you're calling her an hysterical female. Poor mental health and suicide attempts due to the treatment she endured should have been handled better. She should have had more support."

By her own words, she tried to kill herself at least five times. I don't know whether that counts the time she threw herself down a staircase while pregnant. Whether people might find it problematic for me stating that fact, or saying that it's indicative of a volatile temperament, or the combination of the two, I have no control over what people think things I say sound like. People can say anything I write sounds like anything they want, if I start letting that factor into things I write, I may as well not write anything at all.

Ashley wrote: "I've not read this or any Diana biographies, so I am by no means an authority, but as heir to the British throne, he is always going to come out looking shinier, she was always going to be vilified by default."

I would argue that the exact opposite has happened.

Ashley wrote: "There may not actually be any parallel, but I'm just pointing out the coincidences to highlight how women are so often referred to as hysterical or attention-seeking in order to undermine them, and it's sickening. Does this take attention away from Diana's less-than-saint-like behavior? I just think they're separate, her affairs shouldn't invalidate her poor mental health."

Oh, I'm not factoring in her affairs at all. Personally, I'm of the belief that past 1987, they had something of an open marriage, and so I wouldn't count affairs against her character at all. All I'm taking into account here is her temperament and personality. To say that she's no saint is based on first-hand accounts of houseguests and various palace staff. That's no knock on her, we're all flawed people.

Ashley wrote: "What choice did she have but to do it in public? As people watched her every minute of her royal life. And who else was going to help those boys have fun and any semblance of a childhood? If not Charles, then by definition, he wasn't involved, forget appearing to be uninvolved, he was uninvolved. Was someone preventing him from taking his sons to amusement parks?"

Oh, there's always a choice. Charles had as much time with the boys as Diana did, but his time with them was always in the countryside, out of the public gaze. I'm sure they had fun with him too, just a different sort. Also, yes, something was preventing him from taking his sons to amusement parks, Charles is simply not an amusement park sort of guy.

Ashley wrote: "Again, what do I know? I haven't read anything about this. I'm American, what does my opinion even matter?"

Oh, everyone's opinions matter. Even the less informed :)


Jayson Brittany wrote: "I will have to read the book myself. But based on the selected quotes, and everything else I have read over the years, Diana was always going to be painted in a darker light than Charles."

I would respectfully disagree. Not even considering how history has painted both figures since her death, she was always much more popular than Charles and more highly esteemed by the public. In fact, it's the jealously over how people preferred her to him that contributed in part to the breakdown of their marriage.

Brittany wrote: "To play devil's advocate to my own opinion, I am sure that a monarchy was less receptive to mental health than the open public."

Perhaps so, but Charles certainly wasn't. He and Diana were both seeing mental health professionals during their marriage and for a time afterward. He even helped set her up with a therapist after the separation.


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