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I am pretty sure the judges must have been a fix who to give the prize to... the Osama impersonator or Harry's turn as a Nazi 😶.

Tahera wrote: "I am pretty sure the judges must have been a fix who to give the prize to... the Osama impersonator or Harry's turn as a Nazi 😶."

Or possibly both. It slipped my mind to specify in the update that these were two different fancy dress parties. The latter, featuring Nazi Harry, had William dressed as a colonized "savage"... which may have been equally politically incorrect, especially in hindsight. 😬

colonized savage.... seems really appropriate

These are very good points!

The bath thing is disgusting in both accounts, the not bathing much and then reusing the water... doesn't quite matter how well cleaned - or whatever treatment it gets before being reused - it gets. Yuck.

And, yeah, that was overkill for a kids costume but everyone takes it more seriously because their royals or whatever *rolls eyes*

The whole Harry wearing a nazi outfit sparking outrage thing wasn’t that much overkill considering his great grandfather’s brother (great great-uncle?) once aligned himself with Hitler and the entire royal British family is technically German with previous links to Hitler/the Nazis so his action really made them all look bad and reminded the public of their past.

Plus Harry wasn’t a kid when he decided to do that. If it was 2005 then he would’ve been like 20 or 21, more than old enough to know wearing a Nazi costume is not ok regardless of your family’s history!

Kenzah wrote: "colonized savage.... seems really appropriate"

Well, he didn't have much option... the theme of the party was "colonizers and natives." 😬🤷‍♂��

Alexandra Elend Wolf wrote: "These are very good points!

The bath thing is disgusting in both accounts, the not bathing much and then reusing the water... doesn't quite matter how well cleaned - or whatever treatment it gets ..."

Well, I'm not saying he doesn't bathe often. I just said I'm surprised, as a grown man, he takes baths, as opposed to showers. Still, poor plants, to be fertilized by Charles' wastewater. 🌱😥

Kadi wrote: "The whole Harry wearing a nazi outfit sparking outrage thing wasn’t that much overkill considering his great grandfather’s brother (great great-uncle?) once aligned himself with Hitler and the enti..."

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree on that. I'm no fan of Harry, especially of late, but he definitely didn't deserve being condemned by world governments for a bad attempt at being edgy. First of all, he's unelected and hadn't assumed royal duties at the time, so he wasn't on the government payroll, and wasn't beholden to taxpayer scrutiny, nor was he any more than a private citizen at that point, notwithstanding who his father is.

Additionally, I don't believe it's morally correct that he should be weighted down by either his German ethnicity nor the Nazi sympathies of Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson. The Duke and Duchess of Windsor weren't even members of the royal family, they were black sheep and exiles living in France, and were neither invited to the Queen's wedding nor her coronation. No other member of the royal family––and as I said, Edward and Wallis weren't royals at the time––had links to the Nazis, aside from Charles Edward, who was Duke of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha at the time, and only related insofar as he was a grandson of Queen Victoria. The sins of the father should not be conferred unto the son, I firmly believe that, and even more so the sins of distant and historical relatives and ones' genetic or cultural heritage.

Lastly, and I'm sure you'll disagree since you're around 20 yourself, but past a certain number of years, everyone who's ever been 20 considers 20 year-olds "kids." No disrespect to 20 year-olds, it's just a phrase. Like I said, I'm no fan of Harry, and he definitely was of an age where he should have known better, but he was a dumb "college kid."

@Jay all good points and even things I didn’t consider. I didn’t know the party’s theme was “colonisers and natives��, that in itself is problematic.

Maybe it’s because I’m mature for my age or maybe it’s because our day and age accounts for more “woke�� youth if you get what I mean, but I definitely can’t reconcile with Harry’s actions being dismissed as a “kids will be kids�� kind of thing at his big age of 20. Maybe if he was like 16 or younger then I’d get it. That whole debacle was perhaps a product of its time though and maybe some of that can be attributed to a dumb decision on Harry’s part.

Kadi wrote: "@Jay all good points and even things I didn’t consider. I didn’t know the party’s theme was “colonisers and natives��, that in itself is problematic.

Maybe it’s because I’m mature for my age or may..."

I'd like to say that I'm surprised, but these sort of edgy costume party themes seem to be very common. James Gunn, for example, was fired from directing Guardians of the Galaxy because it was discovered that he once held pedophile-themed parties where people dressed as abusers and minors. I'm frankly shocked he was able to come back to Hollywood and direct The Suicide Squad. Also, I think there's an additional layer of stupidity related to Harry dressing as a Nazi, because I don't think the Nazis colonized anything.

I definitely get what you're saying, that age isn't indicative of mental maturity. I think Harry himself has said that the death of his mother led to a long decline of his mental health where he did a lot of drugs and made bad decisions. Actually, in the book, the author mentions that William and Harry turned the Highgrove rec room into a kind of den of underage drinking and vice called Club-H (I assume named after Harry).

I also agree that the whole thing was a product of its time. There's a whole generation that grew up on South Park and Jerry Springer and Jackass and Eminem, who were products of a world where being edgy was the norm. Not that it's any excuse, but context is important when you're looking at things from a modern lens.

"I'm more surprised that he takes baths."
I'm literally choking. And btw, I didn't know about the Harry's nazi costume, omg. I'll search up about that!

ale �� wrote: ""I'm more surprised that he takes baths."
I'm literally choking. And btw, I didn't know about the Harry's nazi costume, omg. I'll search up about that!"

Happy you got a kick out of that, ale! As for Nazi Harry, it should be very easy to search. The internet never forgets your failings, especially if you're a royal.

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Jayson wrote: "Alexandra Elend Wolf wrote: "These are very good points!

The bath thing is disgusting in both accounts, the not bathing much and then reusing the water... doesn't quite matter how well cleaned - o..."

Ohhh, well that is a little better. But, yeah, poor plants *lol*

Alexandra Elend Wolf wrote: "Ohhh, well that is a little better. But, yeah, poor plants *lol*"

Jayson wrote: "Alexandra Elend Wolf wrote: "Ohhh, well that is a little better. But, yeah, poor plants *lol*"

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*lmao* That made my day, thanks :D

Alexandra Elend Wolf wrote: "*lmao* That made my day, thanks :D"

My pleasure, happy to hear that :)